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    Why not "Sorry my bad..."

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    Actually, the early surrender index of 13 (which is what OP was asking about) is quite mild. The hi-lo index here is +3. 14 is a basic strategy early surrender against ten, that for hi lo is hit in any negative count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meistro123 View Post
    Actually, the early surrender index of 13 (which is what OP was asking about) is quite mild. The hi-lo index here is +3. 14 is a basic strategy early surrender against ten, that for hi lo is hit in any negative count.
    Meustro us right. I quoted the Late surrender index.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    That would certainly add to the story. He read every post on the forum. Read 8 books. All 3 of Don S. Studied Hi Opt 77 before playing his first hand...and the Voice said "Aw,cra!" lol
    The English Pig Dig slips every so often. I don't think he's so new. In fact, I say it's a pseudonym for an established handle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    The English Pig Dig slips every so often. I don't think he's so new. In fact, I say it's a pseudonym for an established handle.
    No. Its nice that you guys talk about me when Im not here - its almost like i have friends...almost

    I never read Dons book - but I have read a whole mess of them - and I read every BLACKJACK thread on the forum not the nonsense about other fucking nonsense.

    I am thinking about seeing if i can add the seven side count in under four hours

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ustonzen View Post

    I am thinking about seeing if i can add the seven side count in under four hours
    Try a variant if the FBM ASC, which will allow you to Side Count both aces and sevens.

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    I truly hope that I'm going to receive an answer to my question in this century.

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    Last edited by ferenc11; 02-25-2018 at 03:06 AM.

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    It is not about that Moses. Please do not twist out my post. I asked a question. But it is not soooo urgent.
    Unfortunately i do not possess CVDATA. I am planning on purchasing it.
    I have found a very lucrative game and just want to know the answer. For me every penny counts (i do not have a huge bankroll-working on it hard)
    so thats why i would like to know the correct numbers.
    I appreciate everybodys post here. Especially Norm's products. My game has improved a lot over 3 years time.

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    Thanks to yous!!! I am very grateful believe me.

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    Oh, no bother Moses.
    As You may know i apply REKO. (Only running counts used).
    I like it Simple, very straightforward. Once i was accused of counting by the dealer and i defended myself at the table by saying that "You can even cover the discard tray for all i care...."
    Ever since they think i am a some sort of progression bettor who is constantly seeking winning streaks...

    Regarding of the discrepancy i do not have a correct answer. I have not counted the numbers yet but i am sure it would matter for my wallet.
    I just want to have an accurate game...as much as possible.

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    That's plus 12. (Initial running count is -20 in case of a 6 deck game). Obviously the IRC can be tailored to your own liking.
    But in my kindle version the chart shows plus 21 (1).
    I don't know which i should use.
    Plus 12 or plus 21...?
    Verite suggests to use plus 21 or above...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferenc11 View Post
    That's plus 12. (Initial running count is -20 in case of a 6 deck game). Obviously the IRC can be tailored to your own liking.
    But in my kindle version the chart shows plus 21 (1).
    I don't know which i should use.
    Plus 12 or plus 21...?
    Verite suggests to use plus 21 or above...
    Norm's book (on this site) has all the REKO indices beginning here...https://www.qfit.com/book/ModernBlackjackPage245.htm
    IRC is (-4)X(#of decks -1)-1
    IRC for 6 decks is -21

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Mama View Post
    Norm's book (on this site) has all the REKO indices beginning here...https://www.qfit.com/book/ModernBlackjackPage245.htm
    IRC is (-4)X(#of decks -1)-1
    IRC for 6 decks is -21
    Since when? I thought it was minus 20.

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