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    Where I play insurance pays 2.72-1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post

    If you are buying Insurance only when it is "correct" to do so,
    (as is the case with >95% of all Card Counters) it deserves no
    commentary from me. BUT if I say Partial Insurance" it is often
    a correct play. Most Pit Critters and Pit Bosses will see you as an
    asshole when taking insurance EVERY time. Obviously, they know
    that taking Insurance EVERY time
    is play that is clearly anathema to Card Counters. Taking random tiny amounts of insurance like 10% or 15% of the amount of the main bets will be "low-cost" those that are betting wider in their spreads because they have bought a bit of longevity with this ploy. If they have moved their shoe game spread from 8~1 to 10~1 they will have gained more from their aggressive betting than they will have lost from betting (partial) insurance. Naturally, you can bet the full amount allotted when your Insurance Index has been reached. There are a few silly retorts you can bring up when your action is questioned. I just crow some nonsense about
    "my hunches."
    Some good shit here. Just for the hell if it, I'll try some if this "substandard" insurance for less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion96 View Post
    I took all of the experts advices by never take insurance. At one point, I lost to insurance 80% of the time. I am tired of keep on losing hundreds of dollars to insurance. So now I’m going against all of the experts advices & take insurance every time and now I win insurance bets 80% of the time. If I had kept on listening to experts, I would have lost hundreds of dollars more given that I bet big. Don’t get me wrong, I love all of the experts advices except when it comes to insurance.


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    are you counting cards? if you are you are far better off always taking insurance because you need it when ever your big bets are out in a positive count and it doea not hurt you as much in negative count since you will have min bet out... better yet is take insurance when you are at the correct index for it in the count system you are using. Insurance is the number one most important deviation for card counting.

    if you are not counting.. then take insurance based on how many face cards you and your neighbor has... the casino advice to insure your good hands is also a lie and exactly wrong, if you have two face cards then dealer is less likely to have them. so insure your crap hands and not your good hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    Just taking it at all gets immediate heat and has your play reviewed. If you value longevity there then you must give up insurance. It has a reputation of being a real sweat shop. If you take insurance it definitely is. I find them quite tolerant. They let you count within their comfort zone and make it clear when you have overstayed your welcome. If you let them train you as to what is acceptable then you can play there a long time. If you don't you are toast in no time at all.
    I’m curious what tells you might see from the house to telegraph their tolerance? I’m guessing the cocktail waitress isn’t slipping you a note from the critter, slipped under your Perrier, telling you to reduce the spread, mix up your index plays at negative counts and to order a bourbon with a beer chaser!


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    well cool bosses will start hinting at you to leave and if you keep playing you may give it back. other signd ia when a pit boss starts jotting down notes of your physical appearance, gets on the phone after you did something like spreading and catching ace, and position s themselves in a place to watch your play where they think you are not aware, if ever asked dor an id leave immediately which prevents them from being able to trespassing you, do not go to cage!

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post

    I don't worry so much my act. What you see is what you get. But I have a keen awareness to everyones act around me. When people start changing I start asking myself why? Consistency and self control are mine.
    Yup

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