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    Take insurance

    I took all of the experts advices by never take insurance. At one point, I lost to insurance 80% of the time. I am tired of keep on losing hundreds of dollars to insurance. So now I’m going against all of the experts advices & take insurance every time and now I win insurance bets 80% of the time. If I had kept on listening to experts, I would have lost hundreds of dollars more given that I bet big. Don’t get me wrong, I love all of the experts advices except when it comes to insurance.


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    I've never met an expert who told me never to take insurance.

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    Insurance is the biggest moneymaker in the blackjack house, I think around 8% if you always take it. There's a strike point, where you reduce house edge on insurance to zero. Thereafter, you make money.

    If you're not a counter, never take insurance. If you are a counter, you would be well advised to learn when to take insurance.

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    Winning 80% of insurance bets is pretty good because you are only expected to win around 30% of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Insurance is the biggest moneymaker in the blackjack house, I think around 8% if you always take it. There's a strike point, where you reduce house edge on insurance to zero. Thereafter, you make money.

    If you're not a counter, never take insurance. If you are a counter, you would be well advised to learn when to take insurance.
    SOME people have advised not to take it because correlating you taking insurance with having bigger bets out is easy to spot.
    However - most of the thought has leaned away from cover plays (except not splitting tens) and gravitated towards either better act or mostly just keeping your session short.
    Use superstition - Ive had more than a few dealers tell me insurance was a sucker bet - you can get away with a lot at less sophisticated stores with a good act

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meistro123 View Post
    Winning 80% of insurance bets is pretty good because you are only expected to win around 30% of the time.
    I am not a counter but I was tired of kept on losing to insurance so I decided to take note of how many times I won insurance. Out of ten insurance bets, I lost the first insurance bet, then won the next 4, then lost the 5th bet, but won the next 4 insurance bets. I guess I consider myself very lucky that I won 80%. I think to win consistently, you need skills and lots of luck given the long and cold streaks in the game of Blackjack plus the games can get choppy with constant win/lost sequences. Good luck everyone!


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    now , that is "an expert on anecdotal experience "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meistro123 View Post
    Winning 80% of insurance bets is pretty good because you are only expected to win around 30% of the time.
    Could be selective memory as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    " ... still better than most casinos."

    Then take Insurance, by "Insuring for Less"
    ........ m u c h less.


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    I selectively take insurance often saying that insurance does not male sense with a bad hand because you lose both. If I have max bets out, I might say "I hope you have a BJ (pisses ploppies off) cause I was stupid betting so much. I cant afford to lose my bet(s)"

    I think a good act can help,

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    Insurance is a strategic part of AP blackjack. It is the highest valued index play available.

    Try taking insurance a few times with your min bet out, with large spreads it is cheap cover.
    Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    "Just taking it at all gets immediate heat and has your play reviewed."

    If you are buying Insurance only when it is "correct" to do so,
    (as is the case with >95% of all Card Counters) it deserves no
    commentary from me. BUT if I say Partial Insurance" it is often
    a correct play. Most Pit Critters and Pit Bosses will see you as an
    asshole when taking insurance EVERY time. Obviously, they know
    that taking Insurance EVERY time
    is play that is clearly anathema to Card Counters. Taking random tiny amounts of insurance like 10% or 15% of the amount of the main bets will be "low-cost" those that are betting wider in their spreads because they have bought a bit of longevity with this ploy. If they have moved their shoe game spread from 8~1 to 10~1 they will have gained more from their aggressive betting than they will have lost from betting (partial) insurance. Naturally, you can bet the full amount allotted when your Insurance Index has been reached. There are a few silly retorts you can bring up when your action is questioned. I just crow some nonsense about
    "my hunches."
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    +1 to ZMF's sharing of his experience, as well as Stealth's comments.
    "Your honor, with all due respect: if you're going to try my case for me, I wish you wouldn't lose it."

    Fictitious Boston Attorney Frank Galvin (Paul Newman - January 26, 1925 - September 26, 2008) in The Verdict, 1982, lambasting Trial Judge Hoyle (Milo Donal O'Shea - June 2, 1926 - April 2, 2013) - http://imdb.com/title/tt0084855/

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