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    Have you ever got to the casino without reserve money to replace your session BR

    Recently I had something happen that never happened before. I went on a trip and and usually carry my session BR of 6 max bet rounds for a 20:1 spread and have a reserve of at least 3 more clips of session BR's to travel. I always have the money unhand in case I need it. I was going on an overnight trip to play some and do research into something that would increase advantage. Anyway I played all day visiting several casinos and never needed to be bought in for 1 max bet round at any of them. Most I bought in for less than 1/2 a max bet round. I won handily at every casino and had a profit of about 4 max bet rounds. Then when getting into the research with a friend I went to put the profit into my reserve stash. I didn't have it. Well needless to say I started worrying I dropped it somewhere or someone pickpocket a small 5 figure amount.

    I will keep it short but I a phone call home revealed it was in the last place I thought it was and I almost forgot I put it there. I wasn't too worried because it was either gone or it wasn't. If it wasn't I would find it eventually. If it was lost or stolen there wasn't anything I could do about it. I went on a scouting mission to a bad area before I went on this trip and didn't intend on playing cards because I intentionally picked a very crowded time to scout. I did bring my session BR to try other opportunities if I saw them but I wanted to scout more than play. I felt it was a good idea not to have the whole trip BR with me in case I got robbed. That was all fine but I put my reserve in an unusual place and didn't return it to where I normally have it.

    I have a buddy that just found out he has cancer and it is likely it is advanced stage and another buddy that was likely to die within days if a Hail Mary treatment didn't work. I am getting old and I hadn't slept much in a week because of Gram's paradox and the original issues with friends. So my brain hasn't been sharp lately. Of course aging people have to worry about deteriorating brain issues. I do what I can to keep my brain sharp but in the end what can you really do about it.

    Anyway has anyone ever accidentally left their reserve BR when playing a game they should have it on them? Were you lucky like me and find out about it later or did you reach for it because you needed to buy in for more only to find out you didn't have it? I think I did pretty good making it through decades of play never having had this happen but I am not sure what is normal.

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    I bankrolled a 2 person out of town team for a couple sessions. I knew them. They left their 100k trip roll at home in a different city. I was still playing locally at the time. I lent one if them 10k, which I had on me. I was paid back the next day.

    Just this morning, my wife reminded me of 10k that I had left in a cupboard. Hadn't had a chance to put it to my stash location, so here I am at the bakery with likely 13-14 k or so. It was good idea to take it, since the cleaning ladies are coming in today. Not likely to have an issue paying for coffee.

    On an out of town multi store trip I usually carry 20-25k. Sometimes I go in for 10-12k. Other times, 1 $500 buy in is all I need.

    If anyone has these issues, provided your credit is good, you can arrange for large dollar debit card withdrawals.

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    Recently I had something happen that never happened before. I went on a trip and and usually carry my session BR of 6 max bet rounds for a 20:1 spread and have a reserve of at least 3 more clips of session BR's to travel.
    That seems like a weird way to describe a 24 max bet triproll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    Anyway has anyone ever accidentally left their reserve BR when playing a game they should have it on them? Were you lucky like me and find out about it later or did you reach for it because you needed to buy in for more only to find out you didn't have it?
    I won't sit down if I don't have my reserve money with me to be able to split/double when TC goes extremely high for a long period of time. It could happen. And happen more often than you anticipated.
    Last edited by BJGenius007; 02-23-2018 at 11:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meistro123 View Post
    That seems like a weird way to describe a 24 max bet triproll.
    At a 20-1 spread, likely $25 min, that's 480 single units equals 12k. I hear his units are best in the business.

    No,no,no,no - I'm talking about his betting units.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJGenius007 View Post
    I won't sit down if I don't have my reserve money with me to be able to split/double when TC goes extremely high.
    Always wise.

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    I won't sit down if I don't have my reserve money with me to be able to split/double when TC goes extremely high.
    Playing one hand you should never place a bet if you don't have four more to back it up. While it is possible that you would have to make six bets, say splitting three times and doubling three times, the probability that happening and having to make an inferior play is so remote that it will not have an appreciable impact on your EV. So long as you do have four more bets though you are fine to bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meistro123 View Post
    Playing one hand you should never place a bet if you don't have four more to back it up. While it is possible that you would have to make six bets, say splitting three times and doubling three times, the probability that happening and having to make an inferior play is so remote that it will not have an appreciable impact on your EV. So long as you do have four more bets though you are fine to bet.
    6 times? Try 10. I recall this lively Hand with 2-250, playing 2 squares. Hand 1 split to 4 hands, all doubled, hand doubled for less with balance if chips (plenty in my pocket, but didn't want to go in making the juicy 8v6 double steamer bet. Dealer had the good grace to bust.

    Did something similar another time, that time never won a hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post

    So my brain hasn't been sharp lately. Of course aging people have to worry about deteriorating brain issues. I do what I can to keep my brain sharp but in the end what can you really do about it
    Long posts will do that to you.

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    Trans cranial direct stimulation - fasting - exercise - vegetable juice - stem cells

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    6 times? Try 10.
    Ten would obviously be excessive as the most you can ever need is eight, after four splits and four doubles. But the odds of going from 1 bet to eight are astronomical and you do not miss out on anything by not being prepared for this extremely unlikely possibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ustonzen View Post
    Trans cranial direct stimulation - fasting - exercise - vegetable juice - stem cells
    Also, FBM ASC - generates additional arterial blood flow, creating more oxygen for neural oathways. Believe I mentioned that elsewhere today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meistro123 View Post
    Ten would obviously be excessive as the most you can ever need is eight, after four splits and four doubles. But the odds of going from 1 bet to eight are astronomical and you do not miss out on anything by not being prepared for this extremely unlikely possibility.
    Excessive perhaps, but it happened. Keep in mind, one had max split all doubled, other hand doubled.

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