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    Trip Report: Resorts Catskills

    I'd love to post this in the "Eastern" section, but no one reads it anymore! So, if you want, Norm, you can transfer it there.

    Well, I went to Resorts recently to confirm what I have read online and to possibly get a few hands in. So, the game is as mentioned in other threads 6D and H17 on the main floor. The minimums were $25 with one table of $15. The high limit games had three available tables one of which was $50 minimum. Those tables were S17. All tables of $25 or higher were NMSE games. So, backcounting is impossible. These are the conditions I observed on a mid-week day during the afternoon.

    Of course, there are many new dealers. The few I watched seemed nervous and had trouble at times counting up the card totals. Penetration on one table I watched on the main floor was less than one deck. The tables have ASMs. The dealer put the cards into the shoe THEN slid the cut card in without much care cutting off less than a deck. The floor supervisor stood next to him observing and didn't say anything. He seemed more concerned instead with how many chips were in the rack. I guess there are no notches in the shoes to estimate the cut card position or the dealers just are not yet used to doing it.

    Overall, I would not go back to this casino. I was really disappointed. For a new casino to have only half the available tables open is ridiculous. There were only about nine blackjack tables available on the main floor and three in the high limit room to handle the hoard of eager players from NYC and elsewhere. Many people were hanging around watching the games looking for a seat. I overheard another player mention his similar frustration. Once a seat was vacated, it was filled up right away. I guess surrender is available from what I read on this forum, but I don't know for sure since I never got a chance to play! Maybe on the weekends or late evenings the casino opens up more. Maybe that is a better time to visit.

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    I was also disappointed with this shop. There were only 2 $15 tables and they were packed.
    There were plenty of empty seats at the NMSE $25 tables with a lot of people sitting around waiting for the shuffle to join.
    One of the pit critters told me they are very short on dealers and are trying to hire more so that they can open up more tables.
    I'll probably check back there in a few months to see if conditions have improved. Also, hopefully they will realize they are
    losing a lot of revenue by having people waiting around until the shuffle to join the shoe.

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    Thanks for the added input! Maybe, then I will also wait a few more months before returning. It's in reasonable driving distance from home. The only pit worth playing currently is the high limit room earlier in the day which I don't have a bank for. Later in the afternoon when I was there, it filled up just like the main floor. One added negative is that there is a toll on the bridge over the Hudson river. I wonder where that money goes! The highway to the casino was loaded with large potholes!

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    Does anyone have any info about playing conditions at Monticello?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thirdbaseman View Post
    Does anyone have any info about playing conditions at Monticello?
    I assume you are referring to Resorts World Catskills as this is the only casino in Monticello NY. Some of the dealers here verge on mentally retarded. Some are literally unable to add to 21. I saw some dealers treating players' soft totals as busts. Of course, they will also make mistakes in your favour.

    The tables in the far right corner of the casino with the wall to wall windows tend to be much less crowded than in the main area. I have a feeling most people visiting the casino don't even know this area exists.

    As an aside, since they opened up the new high limit room on the 2nd floor it is very easy to bypass security. Once you walk in take a right past the hotel check-in desk. Take the elevator near the gift shop to the second floor and then walk to the elevator in the high limit room. Take that elevator down to the 1st floor and you are in the high limit slot area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umbrellaman View Post
    As an aside, since they opened up the new high limit room on the 2nd floor it is very easy to bypass security. Once you walk in take a right past the hotel check-in desk. Take the elevator near the gift shop to the second floor and then walk to the elevator in the high limit room. Take that elevator down to the 1st floor and you are in the high limit slot area.
    You do know the elevators have cameras in them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    You do know the elevators have cameras in them.
    He probably knows there are cameras everywhere. He said to bypass security, not surveillance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by therefinery View Post
    He probably knows there are cameras everywhere. He said to bypass security, not surveillance.
    Yes. I am aware of that. I just wanted to make sure he understood higher scrutiny may be in place to look at those that think they can circumvent the obvious security.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halbruno View Post
    Overall, I would not go back to this casino. I was really disappointed. For a new casino to have only half the available tables open is ridiculous. There were only about nine blackjack tables available on the main floor and three in the high limit room to handle the hoard of eager players from NYC and elsewhere. Many people were hanging around watching the games looking for a seat. I overheard another player mention his similar frustration. Once a seat was vacated, it was filled up right away. I guess surrender is available from what I read on this forum, but I don't know for sure since I never got a chance to play! Maybe on the weekends or late evenings the casino opens up more. Maybe that is a better time to visit.
    Well, if you want more empty seats for your next trip, maybe next time you do a trip report state that they cut out at least 2.5 decks from 6. There was no need to provide pen info on an open board. Regardless if you cannot afford playing the high limit tables, there are others that can, thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halbruno View Post
    Of course, there are many new dealers. The few I watched seemed nervous and had trouble at times counting up the card totals.
    Quote Originally Posted by Halbruno View Post
    Overall, I would not go back to this casino. I was really disappointed. For a new casino to have only half the available tables open is ridiculous.
    Don't you see the connection between what you have posted in the two quotes above.

    New casinos have trouble with having enough competent dealers. They may have hired enough dealers but some aren't ready to deal yet (are still in training). Or they may have rushed the opening and estimated the time to train dealers wrong. This is pretty common at new casinos. No matter how many tables they had open they probably will be packed for a while after opening in an area without a local casino.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umbrellaman View Post

    The tables in the far right corner of the casino with the wall to wall windows tend to be much less crowded than in the main area. I have a feeling most people visiting the casino don't even know this area exists.

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    When I was there a few months ago, those tables were $25 no mid shoe entry tables.
    There were only 2 tables that were $15 and allowed mid shoe entry, but they were packed.
    One of the pit critters told me they needed to hire more dealers.
    I wonder if they did and if there are now more mid shoe entry $15 tables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thirdbaseman View Post
    When I was there a few months ago, those tables were $25 no mid shoe entry tables.
    There were only 2 tables that were $15 and allowed mid shoe entry, but they were packed.
    One of the pit critters told me they needed to hire more dealers.
    I wonder if they did and if there are now more mid shoe entry $15 tables.
    Sounds glorious to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    You do know the elevators have cameras in them.
    Of course they do. Stay in the high limit room for a bit and it wouldn't look weird at all.

    My point is that the ineptitude of this casino goes far beyond its dealers.

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