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    Quote Originally Posted by daselin View Post
    as a triathlete I thought we were elitist.
    We are quadratheletes :-)

    Seriously, elitist has nothing to do with it. Most members of this forum understand the math of the game. Gamblers, on the other hand, don't, and simply do not like like to be told they are playing a losing game. No matter how you manage your money, nothing will change that. So take your $150 profit and buy something with it. That way, you can't give it back to the casino.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daselin View Post
    I do not utilize a system = I am going to lose.......check
    I lose 1 of 4 times = I should not aspire for higher stakes and should not play at all.....check
    Over the undefined "long term", I am disadvantaged and will lose everything.....check

    However, when I enter a casino with $150 and leave with $300, I should take the "profit" $150 and...........(___)? I will go with 100 % reinvestment and thank you Freightman. Geez, as a triathlete I thought we were elitist. Thanks for all the insight.
    Daselin, sorry it sounds elitist. Unfortunately, it is true.

    You are gambling, and you are (right now) winning. It could easily be the opposite. Think like a coin flip: each flip is 50/50 heads or tails. Just because 75% so far has been heads, that's just variance. Flip it a billion times, and your results will be closer to 50/50.

    Blackjack has a house edge, which means over the long term, the house wins. Right now you're up on them--great. But over the course of a thousand hands, it will be closer to truth, which is the house edge. We call this N0, the amount of hands necessary to achieve expected results.

    If you want to win long term, you have to learn to count, or shuffle track, or do something to shift the edge in your favor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCJH View Post
    Daselin, sorry it sounds elitist. Unfortunately, it is true.

    You are gambling, and you are (right now) winning. It could easily be the opposite. Think like a coin flip: each flip is 50/50 heads or tails. Just because 75% so far has been heads, that's just variance. Flip it a billion times, and your results will be closer to 50/50.

    Blackjack has a house edge, which means over the long term, the house wins. Right now you're up on them--great. But over the course of a thousand hands, it will be closer to truth, which is the house edge. We call this N0, the amount of hands necessary to achieve expected results.

    If you want to win long term, you have to learn to count, or shuffle track, or do something to shift the edge in your favor.
    To expound further.
    You toss a coin 5 5times, you win 4
    You toss a count 10 times, you win7 - easy so far
    You toss a coin 100 times, you win 57
    You toss a coin 1000 times, you win 512
    You toss a coin 1,000,000 times, you win 499,612

    The law of large numbers, the bigger the sample, the closer you will get to he anticipated result. The house has an edge. Sooner or later, the house will grind the basic non counter into the dust.

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    your winning sessions without an edge is only TEMPORARY. whereas our( counters) losing sessions is also only TEMPORARY. Gamblers ( casino? ) tend to think immediate results.

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    Probably 99.999% of gamblers are recreational players. They play for fun and hope of profit.

    If a rec gambler wants to improve his odds I would say:

    1. Play carded - get as many comps as you can;
    2. If you can enjoy it, play the table minimum or at a level that extends your bankroll as much as possible;
    3. Avoid betting progressions;
    4. When you win pour your winnings back into your bankroll while maintaining your bet level to reduce your risk of ruin;
    5. Get as many free drinks, perks as you can at the table without using card comps;
    6. Learn to find positive edge video poker games and learn to play them correctly.

    The advice others have given is correct if your goal is to make money. But it isn’t germane if you are gambling with money you can afford to lose and want to have some fun. And don’t care if you win or lose, though I’m sure you’d prefer to win! (If so, learn a simple count)

    Finally, the advice others have given is based on the averages. There is an infinitesimally small chance that you could find yourself 3 standard deviations to the right and if you only play occasionally you could end up with some money in your pocket just because of dumb luck. Which is why 99.999% of people go to a casino in the first place - dreams of winning big. Once in a while, some dumb schmuck wins a truckload if money. It’s just exceedingly rare. The AP’s here harbour no such delusions, but don’t let that stop you if you’re having fun.




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    True, nothing wrong with gambling if you enjoy it and if you are ok to lose your money for drinks , entertainment , etc ..

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    My original BR was the $200 I had in my wallet the day I first COUNTED. It is $30K now and I peeled off ~$30K into Freighters wife's pocket over the last 3 years. I still bet $15 to this day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpikeBJ View Post
    My original BR was the $200 I had in my wallet the day I first COUNTED. It is $30K now and I peeled off ~$30K into Freighters wife's pocket over the last 3 years. I still bet $15 to this day.
    I'm having dinner right now, in a great highway diner, after playing on a day trip 1 session. I'll get asked the question - I'll be cagey with my answer, but she'll get another bonus tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpikeBJ View Post
    My original BR was the $200 I had in my wallet the day I first COUNTED. It is $30K now and I peeled off ~$30K into Freighters wife's pocket over the last 3 years. I still bet $15 to this day.
    My wife thanks you.

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    Tell Esmeralda I said hey.

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