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    Early surrender vs.10

    Hi girls and boys!

    In case of early surrender vs.10 (ENHC)
    Will we surrender these specific hands only: 15/10 (player hard 15 versus dealer 10), 16/9, 16/10, 77/10, 88/10?

    Is this correct?

    Thank You



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    If you are using a strong count you'll
    have accurate Late Surrender indices.

    Mine are for 13 to 17 vs. 8, 9, 10, Ace

    Surrender is very very powerful for a
    Card Counter because the higher the
    True Count the higher the bet level and
    that means the higher the likelihood of
    facing the decision Re: Late Surrender
    on your largest bets.

    For a Basic Strategist, Late Surrender
    is worth 0.07% but, depending on the
    player's bet spread it could be worth
    double that.

    Not only does Surrender reduce the House
    Edge, but it radically reduces variance and
    that is a VERY important issue, along with
    Risk Aversion.

    Last edited by ZenMaster_Flash; 02-01-2018 at 09:37 AM.

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    Mr.Zen. Unfortunately I do not have Late surrender rule in my area.

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    I am sure that someone can furnish you with
    a good set of indices. Just state what count
    you are employing.

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    you also surrender all fourteens against ten. although in any negative count you should just hit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meistro123 View Post
    you also surrender all fourteens against ten. although in any negative count you should just hit
    I hit any 1 unit bets. Very low cost.

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    I use REKO. (not your favourite I know Mr.Zen.)

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    Page 390 from second edition.
    Kindle edition. If not, Index is your friend.
    Last edited by Phoebe; 02-02-2018 at 06:32 AM. Reason: Dictionnary is my friend

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferenc11 View Post
    Hi girls and boys!

    In case of early surrender vs.10 (ENHC)
    Will we surrender these specific hands only: 15/10 (player hard 15 versus dealer 10), 16/9, 16/10, 77/10, 88/10?

    Is this correct?

    Thank You


    And 14 vs 10
    "Don't Cast Your Pearls Before Swine" (Jesus)

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    Is it better to follow the indices?

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    Does anyone have all the REKO indices for 6 deck game ENHC Das, Doa, H17, Early surrender vs.10., no RSA? The Modern Blackjack Book does not have it only the S17.
    Or shall i employ the indices of S17's?
    Thanks

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    That is what i am aiming for Three, thanks very much! I hope someone has the indices i was asking for.
    (Otherwise I will have to buy CVDATA......but I think sooner or later I will purchase it regardless..It is about time)

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    H17 / S17 does not affect your surrender indexes because you would only ever surrender against a dealer upcard that is impossible to become a soft seventeen. (7 or higher).

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