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    I know from personal experience that casinos in Ohio, Rhode Island, and Connecticut
    (at least) use the State Police to enforce back-rooming of suspected A.P.'s
    I assure you that this is very unpleasant, as they can hold you, against your will, for
    a very long time, should they choose to.

    The Connecticut casinos are Native American enterprises.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushie View Post
    It's astonishing why anyone would want to play at these seemingly rogue casinos anyway.
    Why?
    Based on a very old joke:
    Gambler # 1: I can't stand that poker game. The rules stink, the stakes are too high,and the players cheat.
    Gambler # 2 Why do you keep going back and playing there.
    Gambler # 1 It's the only game in town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Don't be so quick on the Indian casino bit. Al Rogers would be the best one to answer this one. The case a couple of years back on forcible detainment at an Arizona Indian casino.

    The casino still had immunity, but the court ruled that individual employees and state police could be sued in their individual capacities. The plaintiffs prevailed at trial, and I would imagine that the casino paid the individual judgments.

    I think that the ruling would apply nationwide, as I believe the case was heard in federal court.

    Again, if Al Rogers reads this, he can provide more accurate info.
    There have been successful cases. Bob Nersesian discusses one of the most important ones in The Law for Gamblers (pp 111). San Diego-based attorney Bruce Wilson, an advantage player himself, has also successfully sued Indian casinos by naming the wrongdoing employees individually. A case in which he personally was violently attacked in the parking lot of Pala Casino by its security guards, who also attacked his female companion, is pending.

    The tribes, many of which have committed numerous crimes over the years against patrons they don't like, without a proper response from law enforcement, are slowly being dragged into the civilized world by the courts.
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    And what's the story with the European Casinos? Does anyone have any kind of experience related to being banned or barred or maybe just having a little chat about "do not dare come back anymore otherwise we will have a deep conversation?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferenc11 View Post
    And what's the story with the European Casinos? Does anyone have any kind of experience related to being banned or barred or maybe just having a little chat about "do not dare come back anymore otherwise we will have a deep conversation?"
    I'd imagine it would vary a lot from country to country. I can't see the laws and regulations being universal across the EU.

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    An O.S.N. contributor ~ Twin River in Providence, Rhode Island
    frequently detains and back-rooms Card Counters. They summon
    the local police to do the intimidation and force the presentation
    of identification, etc. so the casino is not liable for what takes place.

    This has happened to me at nearby Foxwoods Casino, although I was
    detained for only about an hour.


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    I’ve experienced one attempt at getting me into the back room in my career so far.

    It was at a corporately owned casino in Nevada. They were either clueless of the law or were hoping I was clueless of the law. I would put money on the latter.

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