Lost $1500 in 3 hours - my first big defeat in 160 hours of Playing...

**Stealth** · 01-20-2018, 11:12 AM

Well now, after reading 102 post with the last 70 or so being bullshit back and forth about each other (you guys should get a room), it is surprising to me that no one offered the OP the solution of going to the the six deck game and Wong until (back count?) TC+2 and bet $100 behind three players. I am not sure how much influence he will have on their playing decisions but certainly keeping them to basic strategy might be doable.

OP has about 5K bank (6500-1500 loss) so treat it as a hail mary and fire away. BTW, this type of play will give you about 12-15% of the rounds that are at or above TC+2. In a full game running about 60 rounds per hour that means you can expect about 7 - 9 rounds with the opportunity you want. Risk of ruin will be high but that must not have mattered or he would not have won the 6500.

The 8 deck game is a money trap that will break you, avoid it.

**Stealth** · 01-20-2018, 11:22 AM

It is the type of bullshit in this thread that (1) gets people banned and (2) should get people banned and (3) the reason that I spend less time on this forum than in the past.

This is supposed to be a platform to share helpful concepts and details if reasonable. Most of this thread has no bearing to useful.

**Ustonzen** · 01-20-2018, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Stealth

Well now, after reading 102 post with the last 70 or so being bullshit back and forth about each other (you guys should get a room), it is surprising to me that no one offered the OP the solution of going to the the six deck game and Wong until (back count?) TC+2 and bet $100 behind three players. I am not sure how much influence he will have on their playing decisions but certainly keeping them to basic strategy might be doable.

OP has about 5K bank (6500-1500 loss) so treat it as a hail mary and fire away. BTW, this type of play will give you about 12-15% of the rounds that are at or above TC+2. In a full game running about 60 rounds per hour that means you can expect about 7 - 9 rounds with the opportunity you want. Risk of ruin will be high but that must not have mattered or he would not have won the 6500.

The 8 deck game is a money trap that will break you, avoid it.

Hes wonging in at 5 apparently they just let him. I think he could probably be wearing an MIT sweater...
Someone who said they were familiar with the game said there definitely was heat but planisphere hasnt been on hear yelling about getting the boot so i think hes still plugging away

**Ustonzen** · 01-20-2018, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Stealth

It is the type of bullshit in this thread that (1) gets people banned and (2) should get people banned and (3) the reason that I spend less time on this forum than in the past.

This is supposed to be a platform to share helpful concepts and details if reasonable. Most of this thread has no bearing to useful.

Stealth, youre one of like 3 people on here who has literally never had a bad post
But dude..
This is an internet forum..
There's like 3 active threads, its the shittiest part of winter, and this place is populated by narcisstic misanthropes.
Its cheaper than a movie and the characters talk back. I keep it to one thread and planisphere is my boy and this thread is staying alive until the one other AP in all of existence who knows what game hes at can give him some useful advice

**Three** · 01-20-2018, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Ustonzen

I am young, beautiful, battle-tested and single - every aspect of my life is not only infinitely better than yours in every way thats vital and priceless but my abilities and potential transcend yours even at their theoretical peak which has long since faded out sight
But please, PLEASE be talking about an actual fight...

Only a fool speaks from a position of ignorance. Although even the best of posters on this forum have made foolish assumptions and then spoke idiotically from a position of ignorance about a person they have never met and know nothing about.

**Ustonzen** · 01-20-2018, 11:42 AM

Hes old and canadian..what else is there to know?

**moses** · 01-20-2018, 11:47 AM

There was a guy in the sportsbook. He was a decent enough guy. Ive got probably a hundred stories. Anyway, day in day out he'd get himself "juiced" but good by using free drink coupons for expensive tequila.

Then, he noticed someone who had a large bet on a game and would start heckling them. Once he got them good and pissed off he'd run to Security.

After about the third time, they waited and he got his ass handed to him royally. I don't see him anymore.

**Ustonzen** · 01-20-2018, 11:47 AM

Not that theres anything wrong with that all my favorite people are old

**Freightman** · 01-20-2018, 12:05 PM

Some people lead pathetic lives, losers with no normal social outlet - people who need to instigate on the most trivial of excuses, in order to gain attention and receive any feedback responses. Pathetic individuals with no sense of self worth, respect, devoid of any meaningful social relationship.

I've just reviewed a number of the english pig dogs posts, and have determined that he is such an individual, crying for attention.

There's the story of how a sadist hurts a masochist - he doesn't.

Ignore the Pig dog. Do not respond to his posts, or his taunting. Post around him, ignore him. 3, p,ease pay heed - do not respond. He will in the short term lash out more, but likely sooner than later, he will disappear.

**Freightman** · 01-20-2018, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Stealth

It is the type of bullshit in this thread that (1) gets people banned and (2) should get people banned and (3) the reason that I spend less time on this forum than in the past.

This is supposed to be a platform to share helpful concepts and details if reasonable. Most of this thread has no bearing to useful.

There's really no point in further addressing the OP. He has very well demonstrated that he is an action junkie, not interested in useful advice, only interested in advice that supports his need to gamble. He believes his initial $6500 win was due to skill, not wanting to recognize the statistical certainties of the game. He has indicated his horror at his first major setback, therefore ror is something he does not want to entertain. Further, he questions his own patience levels in a wonging game.

In a word - hopeless.

**Freightman** · 01-20-2018, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Three

Only a fool speaks from a position of ignorance. Although even the best of posters on this forum have made foolish assumptions and then spoke idiotically from a position of ignorance about a person they have never met and know nothing about.

From a business perspective, I've gone up against guys who played hardball from a position of weakness. Those contests were 1 Way slaughters.

**Joe Mama** · 01-20-2018, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Freightman

Some people lead pathetic lives, losers with no normal social outlet - people who need to instigate on the most trivial of excuses, in order to gain attention and receive any feedback responses. Pathetic individuals with no sense of self worth, respect, devoid of any meaningful social relationship.

I've just reviewed a number of the english pig dogs posts, and have determined that he is such an individual, crying for attention.

There's the story of how a sadist hurts a masochist - he doesn't.

Ignore the Pig dog. Do not respond to his posts, or his taunting. Post around him, ignore him. 3, p,ease pay heed - do not respond. He will in the short term lash out more, but likely sooner than later, he will disappear.

Do you not see the irony in this post?