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    Playing rated at sister property after backoff

    I have heard that some casinos do not communicate AP info with each other if you are backed off in one city playing rated and then go to another city and play rated.

    In particular, I think I have heard that Penn gaming and Pinnacle gaming are poor communicators with their sister properties. (Can anyone confirm?)

    I have also heard that Penn gaming is currently in talks to buy at least one of Pinnacle's properties (Ameristar East Chicago). How would this transaction affect anyone who has been backed off there before?

    I also am aware that Pinnacle properties used to have players' cards that did not even work for any gambler if you took them to a sister property. You would need a new one at each location you visit. That situation has been remedied at Pinnacle as Ameristar East Chicago told me they were the last Pinnacle property to finally connect to their universal player's card in June 2016.

    Are there other big properties that do not carry AP info from one city to another?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beta View Post
    I have also heard that Penn gaming is currently in talks to buy at least one of Pinnacle's properties (Ameristar East Chicago). How would this transaction affect anyone who has been backed off there before?
    Penn is buying more than one Pinnacle property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beta View Post
    I have heard that some casinos do not communicate AP info with each other if you are backed off in one city playing rated and then go to another city and play rated.

    In particular, I think I have heard that Penn gaming and Pinnacle gaming are poor communicators with their sister properties. (Can anyone confirm?)

    I have also heard that Penn gaming is currently in talks to buy at least one of Pinnacle's properties (Ameristar East Chicago). How would this transaction affect anyone who has been backed off there before?

    I also am aware that Pinnacle properties used to have players' cards that did not even work for any gambler if you took them to a sister property. You would need a new one at each location you visit. That situation has been remedied at Pinnacle as Ameristar East Chicago told me they were the last Pinnacle property to finally connect to their universal player's card in June 2016.

    Are there other big properties that do not carry AP info from one city to another?
    The more appropriate question is why are you playing rated???
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    Most of your information is not correct. Pinnacle cards can be read including any comments in all Pinnacle properties. Same with MGM and Boyd, Stations and pretty much all big chains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banker View Post
    Most of your information is not correct. Pinnacle cards can be read including any comments in all Pinnacle properties. Same with MGM and Boyd, Stations and pretty much all big chains.
    Really? I once left one station property, short session and up $1500, was at the next station property and after handing in my card, I asked if they could see my wins/losses at other station properties and the answer was that they could not.

    On two consecutive trips where I was playing with card, I went from one station property to the next all day long, made over $3k on one day and about $1.4k on another day on my next trip.

    Moreover, I am being comped at their property next month.

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    Just because they cannot see your win/loss does not mean they cannot see comments about backoff. The latter are certainly more important, designed to be shared, and they are probably in a different part of the software program. Not sure what your comments about winning 2 days in a row and being comped meant to show. People win all the time and get comped. Wait until you get backed off in one property and then walk to the next one and see how it goes.

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