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    Does CVDATA provide $/shoe, SD/shoe, and CE/shoe? If not can you include it in an update? Not everyone tracks performance based on rounds per hour.

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    Only SD/shoe. But, on the main results page, you could click Customize and adjust the rounds per hour to the rounds per shoe.
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    Only SD/shoe. But, on the main results page, you could click Customize and adjust the rounds per hour to the rounds per shoe.
    How do you know how many rounds are dealt per shoe? What about CE/shoe?

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    Divide the rounds by the shoes. Both numbers are on the summary. CVData doesn't provide CE. No one has ever requested it. You can click Call CVCX to get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Divide the rounds by the shoes. Both numbers are on the summary. CVData doesn't provide CE. No one has ever requested it. You can click Call CVCX to get it.
    Suppose I wanted to figure out the $/shoe implementing a wong out strategy. How could this be done?

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    I'm having difficulty understanding why you want this. What people care about is $/round. $/shoe includes a huge number of variables. Most importantly other players and the speed of the dealer. I've seen dealers in Puerto Rico with hands that are just blurs.
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    I feel it is easier to track how many shoes you play as opposed to how many rounds you play per hour. Yes number of players at the table impact $/shoe, but the speed of the dealer is irrelevant. Estimating rounds per hour is difficult but tracking # shoes played is easy.

    So is there a way to figure out earnings per shoe with a wong out strategy?

    MJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJ1 View Post
    I feel it is easier to track how many shoes you play as opposed to how many rounds you play per hour. Yes number of players at the table impact $/shoe, but the speed of the dealer is irrelevant. Estimating rounds per hour is difficult but tracking # shoes played is easy.

    So is there a way to figure out earnings per shoe with a wong out strategy?

    MJ
    From the number of shoes played, you could come to an estimated rounds played. There is an average of about 2.7 cards played per spot, including the dealer's, or about 19.26 spots per deck. What is the penetration? How many players were you playing with?

    Aprox rounds = number of shoes * decks in the shoe * penetration * 19.26 / number of played spots, including yours and the dealer's

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    Given the pen and the crowding you know about how many rounds will be dealt from the shoe. All you need is the time it took to play the shoe including the time to shuffle the cards to get rounds/hour. Do you carry aa device that tells time?
    So is there a way to figure out rounds dealt per shoe on CVData given a wong out strategy?

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    Divide rounds by shoes.
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    Divide rounds by shoes.
    If I reverse wong I wouldn't be playing all rounds. Wouldn't I have to multiply % rounds played by total rounds and then divide the product by # shoes? I might be confused here but would the answer be affected by Force Shuffle On Exit?

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    Divide rounds by shoes. If you change the options to sim something you don't do, the results will be different. They will be the results for what you have changed the options to.
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    Divide rounds by shoes. If you change the options to sim something you don't do, the results will be different. They will be the results for what you have changed the options to.
    Hmm...as I'm trying to figure out the value per shoe should I select force shuffle on exit? In the casino I would leave the table after I wong out.

    MJ

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