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    bankroll and recommended bet strategy

    Hi,
    i'v been playing blackjack for some time now,but still not quite sure about the amount of best bet compared to the bankroll one puts at stake!

    let's suppose i start with a 500-600$ bankroll is advisable to play at what minimum table bet?
    a 5$ dollars minimum ,10 or more?
    at what point should one set a stop loss or maybe not setting it at all(considered tha huge variance of bj,therefore a too little sl comes too often)?
    considered a 5$ minimum bet ,30 or 40 pieces of 5$ should be large enough not to come very often or what else?

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    500-600$ really is not even enough for a session bankroll at 5$ units.

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    $500-$600 isn't going to be near enough for a bankroll. Although it could be an okay session roll if you found a good white chip game. Like $3 single deck or a $1 or $2 shoe.

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    When you have that small a bank roll, back count a $5 or $10 6 deck game, sit down when the count reaches +2, place $10 or $15 bet, leave if count drops below +2. This means you are only playing when odds are in your favor. Keep saving up to a bigger bank roll.

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    OP, what do you mean by "$500-600 bankroll"? Do you mean the amount you have to play for a session? Or do you mean the total amount you have to be allocated to card-counting? If that $500-600 is all lost, can it be replenished, or are you completely "out of the game" at that point?

    Overall, you should really focus on what your total bankroll is -- amount you can allocate to gambling, then figure out what games are in your area, sim the game, and see what kind of a spread is required to beat the game to your level of liking. After that, figure out how much risk you're willing to take with your bankroll (ROR), then see what bet levels the sim would have you betting at.
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    i see,but on live on line casino i don't think is possible(or at least not to a relevant way) to count cards or am i wrong ?
    anyway, as for a sl (i know the bankroll is not a big one) what would be advisable to set?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattdamon View Post
    sl
    Re: Online BJ you are correct.

    What does "
    sl" mean?

    But you are bankrolled for a game that has such a low minimum
    that it does NOT exist, and if it did exist, your expectation would
    be to win perhaps $3 or $4 per hour. Your Risk of Ruin would be
    somewhere North of 40% and the whole enterprise is ill-advised.




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    I'm sorry, i meant stop loss;
    above they have said that i have a too low bankroll(now i'v reached 900$)for a 5$ minimum bet table,therefore i shuold need a bigger bankroll,but how much bigger?
    the double of it(1800$) would be enough or more(3-4000$ maybe)?
    being willing to play at least 1000-1500hands(not on online bj but on the software) would be enough to beat the variance(at least most of the time)?
    what if i should put a 10% stop loss and 10% stop win with the bankroll i have(900$)?
    what about(i know it would be pure gambling) making an ALL IN to try to double down all at once (risking of losing all at the same time)?[/QUOTE]



    But you are bankrolled for a game that has such a low minimum
    that it does NOT exist, and if it did exist, your expectation would
    be to win perhaps $3 or $4 per hour. Your Risk of Ruin would be
    somewhere North of 40% and the whole enterprise is ill-advised.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mattdamon View Post
    I'm sorry, I meant stop loss;
    I knew what you meant. I usually take $13-15K on a trip but won't start a shoe if I don't have at least $4K left making my effective stop loss around $10K but calling it a stop loss is inaccurate. I could lose the entire trip BR if a really bad shoe starts where I feel I have sufficient funds to play. I used to carry $20K+ and had a top 1 shoe loss of $8K'ish until I advanced my approach some. Now my max loss shoe is about half that or $4K'ish despite playing with a higher max bet. This resulted in being able to carry a much smaller trip BR.

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    The following is not mathematically accurate.

    As a "rule of thumb," the following guidelines are reasonable:

    If you really 'know what you are doing', playing a $10 game will

    require from $8,000 to $12,000 depending on the table conditions.

    An amateur should not play at all, but assuming that s/he is going to

    play anyway, add 10% - 20%.

    Do as you will, but a newbie MUST learn what R.O.R. (Risk of Ruin)

    means, and should not proceed without understanding it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post

    The following is not mathematically accurate.

    As a "rule of thumb," the following guidelines are reasonable:

    If you really 'know what you are doing', playing a $10 game will

    require from $8,000 to $12,000 depending on the table conditions.

    An amateur should not play at all, but assuming that s/he is going to

    play anyway, add 10% - 20%.

    Do as you will, but a newbie MUST learn what R.O.R. (Risk of Ruin)

    means, and should not proceed without understanding it.


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    But assuming one decides to play nontheless,with a bankroll of 800-900$ in broad terms,at what point is advisable to put a stop loss and stop win?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattdamon View Post
    "But assuming one decides to play nontheless,with a bankroll
    of 800-900$ in broad terms
    ,at what point is advisable to put
    a stop loss and stop win?"
    The action of quitting because you have WON
    a certain amount of money is certainly with
    neither merit nor justification.
    The action of quitting because you have LOST
    a certain amount of money is not such a poor idea ~
    because you are courting financial ruin from the very
    outset and your downside RISK grows as your cash
    reserves diminish.

    So go forth, lose a few bets, and go home.

    Last edited by ZenMaster_Flash; 12-12-2017 at 07:25 AM.

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