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    Lack of info on Unbalanced Zen Indices.

    I own a copy of the 2009 kindle edition of 'The Unbalanced Zen 2 by George C. I find the index values given in that literature is very different from what Norm W's CVIndex would like to suggest; an example being the Initial Running Count (IRC) of these Unbalanced systems. Also that George C is siding with his preference for Rounded Indices for All Number of Decks being a completely viable option. I would like to use Norm's CVIndex index-numbers instead of George's found in his book for one. What is the IRC that Norm proposes in his CVIndex program again? please? I forget.
    One big problem I have with CVCX when I compare a double-deck game between Unbalanced Zen 2 vs. Arnold Snyder's Red 7 count for the game 50% pen H17, DOA, Spl up to 4 hands, No surrender, I see Unbalanced Zen performing worse in so many ways. Why would CVCX portray this? Thank you for all of your input ahead of time. Greatly appreciated. I am not interest in discussing the benefits of True Counting vs. Unbalanced Counting systems please but only this question to be answered. I am not interested in true-counted level 2 or 3 systems nor multi-level systems, nor am I interested in side counting. I just want this simple question answered please and thank you. These days I prefer/enjoy Hole Carding more.
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    If i played two decks- i would choose UBZ 2. Good system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramazeka View Post
    If i played two decks- i would choose UBZ 2. Good system.
    I didn't know that. Thanks for posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramazeka View Post
    "If i played two decks- i would choose UBZ 2. Good system."
    The top counts for a DD game are Hi-Opt II and Advanced Omega II, in that order.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    The top counts for a DD game are Hi-Opt II and Advanced Omega II, in that order.

    That's correct. Did you get that from the chart he posted that says exactly that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by therefinery View Post
    That's correct. Did you get that from the chart he posted that says exactly that?



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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    The top counts for a DD game are Hi-Opt II and Advanced Omega II, in that order.

    UBZ 2 it's easier and more convenient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramazeka View Post
    "UBZ 2 it's easier and more convenient."
    I agree that UBZ 2 is easy. I do not fathom "convenient."

    The price paid for "ease of use" is simply its weakness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    The top counts for a DD game are Hi-Opt II and Advanced Omega II, in that order.

    Anything else, just sit and scratch your balls. Says so in the 5 books of Flash. Check book 4 -
    If thou playest double deck. Check Life after Tarzan, bypass the plays of 3 - and it is written

    "If thou playest double deck, your system of choice is Hi Opt 2. If thou must, you may play Advanced Omega 2. If the language of these ace neutral systems are foreign to you, then, you are condemned as a heretic. Thou must playest basic, and whilst doing so, scratch thine own balls"

    So let it be written, so let it be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Anything else, just sit and scratch your balls. Says so in the 5 books of Flash. Check book 4 -
    If thou playest double deck. Check Life after Tarzan, bypass the plays of 3 - and it is written

    "If thou playest double deck, your system of choice is Hi Opt 2. If thou must, you may play Advanced Omega 2. If the language of these ace neutral systems are foreign to you, then, you are condemned as a heretic. Thou must playest basic, and whilst doing so, scratch thine own balls"

    So let it be written, so let it be done.
    Clearly written with time to spare, while enjoying coffee, you know where

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    The top counts for a DD game are Hi-Opt II and Advanced Omega II, in that order.

    Chart shows Halves beating out AOII

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    Chart shows Halves beating out AOII
    What game rules did you compare?

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