Double on a soft 19

**Freightman** · 12-02-2017, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by ShipTheCookies

Folks, the OP said "6 decks, HIT SOFT 17..."

Doubling A,8 vs 6 is THE CORRECT BASIC STRATEGY!

Piss on what others at the table think.

Despite your short posting career here - at least under this handle - I believe I've already had you pegged as a bonehead. So what if it's basic, old or new. I think you've missed the point made by some pretty smart posters.

If you want to EV maximize, be my guest. If you want to EV maximize every play out there, be my guest again, but be prepared for the variance roller coaster. If you want to maximize the amount if money you make,then consider a combination of EV maximizing plays with risk averse plays.

**Freightman** · 12-02-2017, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Philippe B

Si vous le dites, je ne peux que le croire.

House language is English.

**Phoebe** · 12-02-2017, 03:31 PM

RA index for 19 soft vs 6 is 0 too.

**Phoebe** · 12-02-2017, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Freightman

House language is English.

Don speak perfectly french and my post was for he only.

**Freightman** · 12-02-2017, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by Philippe B

RA index for 19 soft vs 6 is 0 too.

I haven't seen the published ra number, but 0 certainly does not sound correct. What is the source of your comment.

**Phoebe** · 12-02-2017, 03:45 PM

Fresh CVCX sim. What else ?

**ShipTheCookies** · 12-02-2017, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by Freightman

Despite your short posting career here - at least under this handle - I believe I've already had you pegged as a bonehead. So what if it's basic, old or new. I think you've missed the point made by some pretty smart posters.

If you want to EV maximize, be my guest. If you want to EV maximize every play out there, be my guest again, but be prepared for the variance roller coaster. If you want to maximize the amount if money you make,then consider a combination of EV maximizing plays with risk averse plays.

I made that point because it seemed to me that some in this thread didn't understand that was the correct basic strategy for the rules presented. Whether the guy wants to be RA isn't the issue. He was more concerned with, 1) it was the right play at the right index and 2) he was concerned about "ploppie heat."

And second, please keep thinking I'm a "bonehead." Because this "bonehead" plays MANY casino games with HUGE advantages! Not paultry 1-2% stuff!!

**DSchles** · 12-02-2017, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Freightman

I haven't seen the published ra number, but 0 certainly does not sound correct. What is the source of your comment.

It's right. Also see p. 375 of BJA3, which is for S17. The point is that, unlike most plays, this one has you departing from BS when the TC is LESS than the index (like 12 v. 4). And, as you saw from the graph Philippe supplied, the delta between the two edges remains very small throughout huge variance of the true count. So, it simply doesn't matter if you double or not.

Don

**21forme** · 12-02-2017, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by BJDumbass007

You aren't Miss Congeniality, are you?

As you may have noticed, I have little tolerance for stupidity, when it comes to a few posters here, but also when it comes to casino personnel.

I'm particularly proud of chasing off a friendly, big-tipping high-roller from a table where we were both playing, when the dealer reshuffled "us" mid-shoe on his own. I explained to the high roller what just happened and how it affected him, just before leaving.

**Ustonzen** · 12-02-2017, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by 21forme

As you may have noticed, I have little tolerance for stupidity .

Is that why you hate yourself?

Young newbs will say do it - screw everyone else, middle of the roaders will say its the correct play but not significant, experienced will say its not worth the heat as they have been around long enough to get kicked out of enough places to know that no play hurts your ev more than the play that gets you booted..