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    Wonging in CVData Results Questions

    I ran a multitrack sim to compare 1. force shuffle on exit 2. enter shoe multiple times 3. wonging off

    Seat 1 force shuffle on exit with wong by depth on
    Seat 2 enter shoe multiple times with wong by depth on
    Seat 3 wonging off

    The results were not what I expected and I can't see anything I've done wrong. And these are the questions I am trying to answer:

    1. Should the results of force shuffle versus enter shoe multiple times be much different than one another?
    2. Why are my results when I am not wonging in seat 3 the same as my results for wonging in seat 1 and 2?

    I wong out when the house has a ~1% adv against me at each shoe depth.

    Any ideas would be apprecitated.

    settings:
    6 Deck, h17, DAS, RSA, 5/6 pen
    remove seat effect checked
    2000 million sims
    Playing Strategy REKO

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    If you're trying to sim different methods of wonging, you can't run them in the same sim as they players will affect each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    If you're trying to sim different methods of wonging, you can run them in the same sim as they players will affect each other.
    Yes, I am trying to compare different methods of wonging. I did run them in the same sim. Your reply did not make sense to me. Did you mean I "can't" run them in the same sim maybe?

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    When you sim three players at once, they are at the same table. Wonging affects other players as it changes count frequencies. For comparisons, I nearly always use separate sims. (It's faster too.)
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    Ok. I will use separate sims to compare the different wonging techniques. Would one expect that "force shuffle on exit" would return about the same win rate and score as "enter shoe multiple times" if all things were equal? Thanks for your help.

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    I imagine you would obtain somewhat better results with reentry due to deeper penetration.
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    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    you can run them in the same sim
    The confusion comes from this typo.

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    Ahh, thanks. Yes, I meant can't.
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