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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    Freighter, so I need to back and review the 23 playable hands?
    There should be some published charts on this. The concept is very much like risk averse doubles. The higher the true count, the greater the percentage of overall EV recovered.

    3 had some interesting shit on this awhile back.

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    How many BJ's did you have out of the 18 you won on insurance. Any?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpikeBJ View Post
    How many BJ's did you have out of the 18 you won on insurance. Any?
    He said that those were the crappy hands that called for insurance. I don't think he included BJ's in the crappy hands he insured.

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    Face Palm!

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    CaAP101,

    As you are never the favorite to win an upcoming hand of blackjack,
    you have to reject the silly notion that losing money at a high T.C., is,
    in any way, unusual.




    Last edited by ZenMaster_Flash; 12-03-2017 at 07:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    So you win 1 max bet 18 times which is a win of 18 max bets, and lose 1/2 max bet 23 times which is a loss of 11.5 max bets. The difference is 6.5 max bets. Am I doing something wrong?
    Sorry about that. Was paying the insurance bets at 3:2, instead of 2:1!! Not like me. Sorry. 6.5 is good.

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    So you win 1 max bet 18 times which is a win of 18 max bets, and lose 1/2 max bet 23 times which is a loss of 11.5 max bets. The difference is 6.5 max bets. Am I doing something wrong?
    Yes, rethink. Look at my post 22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Yes, rethink. Look at my post 22.
    I made a simple math goof on 22, but I think you're still off a max bet. I'll look at it later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    I made a simple math goof on 22, but I think you're still off a max bet. I'll look at it later.
    Think again.

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    Remember that insuring "good" hands (at less than TC 3) can improve SCORE - lowers EV but lowers variance even more. Ref Grosjean on insuring 20.

    I assume the same is true, perhaps more so, for insuring 21 (yes, possible in some places... ) although I never got a reply when I posted this question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bj21abc View Post
    "insuring "good" hands"
    Insuring 20's, 19's and 11's at sub-optimal
    True Counts is a fine Risk Averse measure.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bj21abc View Post
    Remember that insuring "good" hands (at less than TC 3) can improve SCORE - lowers EV but lowers variance even more. Ref Grosjean on insuring 20.
    This surprises me. Can you provide a further cite regarding this assertion; i.e., is this in Exhibit CAA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    Insuring 20's, 19's and 11's at sub-optimal
    True Counts is a fine Risk Averse measure.

    What about "Even Money?"
    http://bjstrat.net/cgi-bin/cdca.cgi

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