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    The counter protocols and such are more appropriate for Las Vegas or Tunica or Reno. Where I play, I have just driven 2-3 hours to get to the casino, there is only one DD table with just one person, possibly a counter, playing. I just cant get into my car and drive another 45 minutes to the next casino. All the 2-3 casinos generally have one $25 min. DD game going. Out here, we get along with the pit and dealers and each other and manage. Course, if the counter is already having been identified and cut card is being placed at half shoe or less, he is not much of a counter if he stays and plays. I would just go a $10 6 deck table and wait it out.

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    Its a good thing if you lose the count you can just ask him what it is

    If you wanted to get rid of him just get a friend who never goes to a casino to tell the pit boss that the guy told him in the bathroom he was making a killing counting and your friend wanted to report the illegal activity

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    I've found myself next to counters. There was one place that used to not care about counters. Before management changed there, I would be sitting next to a counter almost every time I went. None of us bothered to leave. We'd just blast away for hours. Fun times. If a store is the least bit sweaty and I so much as smell counter, I leave. I don't need to confirm, I just go. In places in the middle, if I was there first it is my table. I'm not leaving, but you probably should. If I stumble across your table and realize you're counting, I'll go myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ustonzen View Post
    Its a good thing if you lose the count you can just ask him what it is

    If you wanted to get rid of him just get a friend who never goes to a casino to tell the pit boss that the guy told him in the bathroom he was making a killing counting and your friend wanted to report the illegal activity
    I was joking of course, what you really should do is tell the pit boss while youre both at the table that hes counting - that way you get the table to yourself and nothing bad can happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ustonzen View Post
    that way you get the table to yourself and nothing bad can happen
    other than your body being found in a ditch for the crime of DOUCH'E BAG.

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    I hope some people here are better at detecting heat then sarcasm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    A few months ago, sat down at a hi limit table....So, shithead tells his buddy they should go for a smoke. I have a few minutes if heads up play, while shithead is undoubtedly giving his buddy the low down on me. They return. He shortly jumps to his preductable 2x200. I give him the stare and simply tell him not to pull that shit with me. He behaves himself, but does make a few other silly moves. ....
    has to be one of the funniest passages in a while...what exactly does this mean from an APs prospective??? ...that stare must've got him....LMAO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharky View Post
    has to be one of the funniest passages in a while...what exactly does this mean from an APs prospective??? ...that stare must've got him....LMAO
    As for funniest passages in a while, you've clearly missed some of my better gems

    The stare...the stare you say.....essentially saying - hey fucknuts, l left a table once because of you. Don't be a shithead, especially, with an artist on site., keep it to one spot. I could go on, but, he kept it to one spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    The counter protocols and such are more appropriate for Las Vegas or Tunica or Reno. Where I play, I have just driven 2-3 hours to get to the casino, there is only one DD table with just one person, possibly a counter, playing. I just cant get into my car and drive another 45 minutes to the next casino. All the 2-3 casinos generally have one $25 min. DD game going.
    Zee, and anyone else who thinks this is okay, it isn't.

    Two people raising and lowering at the same time is too obvious. You're just asking to be spotted. Yes, if you drove 2 hours and there's already a counter at the table, you don't play. It has nothing to do with being polite; it has to do with preserving the longevity of you and the other counter at this casino. You might not be only burning you...

    I have EXCELLENT cover, and always spot the other counter before they spot me. It's irritating at times, but I still leave. Not because I like the other person, but I like being welcomed (almost) anywhere.

    I would say "the protocol" is MORE important outside of Vegas. There's a ton of degenerate hi rollers in Vegas; you can easily whale draft. In the boonies? Not so much. We stick out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCJH View Post
    Zee, and anyone else who thinks this is okay, it isn't.

    Two people raising and lowering at the same time is too obvious. You're just asking to be spotted. Yes, if you drove 2 hours and there's already a counter at the table, you don't play. It has nothing to do with being polite; it has to do with preserving the longevity of you and the other counter at this casino. You might not be only burning you...

    I have EXCELLENT cover, and always spot the other counter before they spot me. It's irritating at times, but I still leave. Not because I like the other person, but I like being welcomed (almost) anywhere.

    I would say "the protocol" is MORE important outside of Vegas. There's a ton of degenerate hi rollers in Vegas; you can easily whale draft. In the boonies? Not so much. We stick out.
    First, If the person is a good counter, neither I nor the pit will be able to identify the counter. Second, I don't go and stand at a table, trying to identify if a counter is at the table. Third, if after I am playing, I see someone increasing bets, MAY be a counter, I see how different or alike we are. We could be betting different levels, me increasing my $10 bet to $50 and he is betting 3 blacks, I am not moving. I can't afford the $50 minimum table in the HL room, he can.

    I am not driving 3 hours to turn around and come home without playing because the one DD table is occupied by a counter from elsewhere.

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