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    AP protocols - revisit an age old theme.

    A few months ago, sat down at a hi limit table. The other guy was out for a smoke, noted the mounds of chips totalling give it take 15k and politely waited. Peckerhead returns gleefully inviting me into the fray. With misgivings galore, I pop a green chip into the square, as does peckerhead - okay - what's my first clue.

    2 hands later, the cut card comes out revealing a superior ha ha 3/6 cut. I want out if here asap, but politely wait until a few hands into the next shoe. My excuse for a new table came quickly with an exact true 1 and a jump to 2x200. (This guy doesn't know intrapolation) I ask for a seperate table, which is granted.

    Fast forward a month or 2. I'm playing heads up when peckerhead sits down. He does wait for a new shoe, and pops in - starting with his min 25 and immediate jump at 1.0 to 2x200. I'd already made my money, so I decided to be like horse shit and hit the road.

    The other day, shithead again shows up, notes me and politely reserves a spot and goes to play slots. To that point, I'd been playing a friendly heads up game. Shithead comes back a few minutes later, with a ploppy in tow. He sits at first, ploppy at anchor, with me at my normal spot. He is telling ploppy buddy when to surrender, splits 99v2 at -5, and fails to tell his buddy not to double that crappy ace 3 v dealer 2. Okay, so his index play sucks, his basic is off, but he hasnt yet jumped to his 2x200 at +1. Meanwhile, he is practicing some stupid cover, losing 25, betting 50, losing , betting 75, losing, going back to 25? So, shithead tells his buddy they should go for a smoke. I have a few minutes if heads up play, while shithead is undoubtedly giving his buddy the low down on me. They return. He shortly jumps to his preductable 2x200. I give him the stare and simply tell him not to pull that shit with me. He behaves himself, but does make a few other silly moves.

    I really don't need this shit, claim tiredness and color up.

    He was clearly counting, had access to funds, but really wasnt any good. This is confirmed by some scouting reports received.No problem as far as I'm concerned. What is a problem, is that turdman didn't have a brain in his head. There are clear cut protocols. This guy was oblivious, or simply didn't give a shit, the latter being my suspicion.

    I've decided on a course of action, for our next encounter - the purpose of this post being for all to mind your manners - not to come in knowingly unless invited.

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    He can play however the hell he likes. If you don't like it, go somewhere else!

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    Freightster,
    What are the "clear cut" protocols again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShipTheCookies View Post
    He can play however the hell he likes. If you don't like it, go somewhere else!
    Man, how many side handles do You have. And, if I’m incorrect on that point, then, you have clearly missed it, that being the point.
    Last edited by Freightman; 11-12-2017 at 04:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpikeBJ View Post
    Freightster,
    What are the "clear cut" protocols again?
    For some reason I also missed those clear cut protocols. However, if I travel a couple of hours to a casino I'm surely not going to let anyone dictate how I play. It doesn't matter who was at the table first, and switching tables is not an option as most of the time other tables are not available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    For some reason I also missed those clear cut protocols. However, if I travel a couple of hours to a casino I'm surely not going to let anyone dictate how I play. It doesn't matter who was at the table first, and switching tables is not an option as most of the time other tables are not available.
    I obviously did not explain this properly. Though I described play, I really don't give a shit how he plays. The clear protocols are, if you're s counter, then stay the fuck off another counters table. I could have clarified further with regards to his big mouth, but I thought I made the point without doing so.

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    sort of sad.

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    So you're telling me the guy is a losing player whom will undoubtedly catch surveillance and the pits attention (away from you) with his 1x25 to 2x200 on a whim and yet you hate this guy? Sure you might not like him at your table, but if he's that oblivious and doesn't know you're a counter, then he's literally doing nothing wrong from his perspective. He's just playing his losing game (which a lot of unsuccessful counters are doing). In the mean time, why don't you just hop to another table and lol about his negative EV and what a good distraction he's being for you?
    Don't think you have a winning game; know you have a winning game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romes View Post
    So you're telling me the guy is a losing player whom will undoubtedly catch surveillance and the pits attention (away from you) with his 1x25 to 2x200 on a whim and yet you hate this guy? Sure you might not like him at your table, but if he's that oblivious and doesn't know you're a counter, then he's literally doing nothing wrong from his perspective. He's just playing his losing game (which a lot of unsuccessful counters are doing). In the mean time, why don't you just hop to another table and lol about his negative EV and what a good distraction he's being for you?
    He does know that I’m counting. In one of the 2 venues I’ve been with him, no other table is available. In the other, a table will open on availability.

    The other issue for me is that my game is far more subtle than his, and I’m not overly subtle. He’s open about what he’s doing. I certainly don’t want to share 3/6 with him, or 4/6 at the other venue when I’m used to better cuts.

    Anyways, my bitch for the week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romes View Post
    So you're telling me the guy is a losing player whom will undoubtedly catch surveillance and the pits attention (away from you) with his 1x25 to 2x200 on a whim and yet you hate this guy? Sure you might not like him at your table, but if he's that oblivious and doesn't know you're a counter, then he's literally doing nothing wrong from his perspective. He's just playing his losing game (which a lot of unsuccessful counters are doing). In the mean time, why don't you just hop to another table and lol about his negative EV and what a good distraction he's being for you?
    It's hilarious when the counters come to our tables and see our "wacky" plays. Half the time they're worse than ploppies when it comes to complaining about "bad play" when in reality, they just don't have a clue!

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