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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    Don has the patience of a saint. If you've gotten to him, there's nothing more to say.
    +1,000

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    Have to agree with Don, Zee has framed this in so many ways I want to respond with refer to answer #3 or 6 or 8 or the most recent relevant post.

    He really should take responsibility for the planning, execution and results of his own actions.
    Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Personal situations make it possible for just one 2-3 night trip a month. This, IFor me, LV is oddly cheaper to get to and back (thanks to Frontier airlines). Now, I am considering the other side of the state but is going for just one night and about 6-8 hours of play worth it? It costs a bit more to head to other destinations and I still can only go for 2-3 nights a trip.

    In any case, I was trying to get a feel for what to consider in making such decisions.
    Zee, go to the casino with the train. I promise you there will be freebies galore for your next trip, if you're talking about RFB, that is. If it's ladies for hire you're after, go to Gilligan's.

    Gas: $100
    Food: 0. Ask for a comp for food after an hour of play.
    Room: $120 max if you have to pay rack rate at a casino or local Holiday Inn Express.

    Wait for next month's offers, and repeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    On a flying trip, if I can arrange it, i plan for early am arrival at destination and depart later pm of early evening to go back ho e. Allows for 1/2 day play at no additional hotel expense.
    What do you do with your suitcase until check in time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    What do you do with your suitcase until check in time?
    It's in the trunk of my rental car. I remove it when I return the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    What do you do with your suitcase until check in time?
    Well I'm sure Freightman can speak for himself, but I'm assuming if he's flying to his destination, then I'm also assuming he's renting a car. If so, then throw your bags in the trunk until it's time to check into your room. Also, some casino hotels allow early check-in. Example: If you have a Diamond card with CET, then you can typically check much earlier than the standard 4pm check-in time. Lastly, if option 1 or 2 doesn't apply to you, then some hotels will store your bag in back room and tag your luggage. Then just come back and pick it up when it's time to check in to the room.

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    "First poor post from Don I have read in my 2-3 years on these forums."

    It wasn't a "poor" post; it was a negative post. There's a difference. It was a good post, but it said negative things.

    "More often, he either addresses the question or he ignores it. I am sorry to know it bothers him."

    It doesn't bother me. It bothers me that others think you can be rehabilitated and spend so much time (and bandwidth) trying. I was simply expressing my opinion. I don't think you have the emotional stability to play the game properly. That isn't being unkind; it's being honest and realistic. If you can't accept results for the meaningless blips that they are and just PLAY without agonizing over every hand, you are much better off not playing at all.

    Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    It's in the trunk of my rental car. I remove it when I return the car.
    Oops. Didn't mean to sound redundant. You beat me to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryemo View Post
    Oops. Didn't mean to sound redundant. You beat me to it.
    No worries

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Personal situations make it possible for just one 2-3 night trip a month. This, I take to LV at present. I have been there 3 times in the last three months and its been a win of $400 (slight loss if you consider expenses I incurred getting there and back), a win of $3400 (about $3000 after expenses) and a loss of $3700 (about $4k after expenses)
    Okay, I see the wife laid down the law. No sex if more than one 2 to 3 night trip a month. That is okay. Skip your Vegas trip and go to the other side of your state. Make it a three night trip instead of two.

    I always wondered why you go on weekends when you say you want time with your son. Isn't he in school on weekdays. It seems weekends would offer more free time to be with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    It bothers me that others think you can be rehabilitated and spend so much time (and bandwidth) trying. I was simply expressing my opinion. I don't think you have the emotional stability to play the game properly. That isn't being unkind; it's being honest and realistic. Don
    +1

    Zee, I think you need to play because it makes you feel important. The dealers fawn over you, because you toke. The casinos give you free room and board, so you feel like a high roller. When you can't play, you come on here (and other boards) and ask basic questions to feed your need for attention. I'm also not trying to be mean, but that's realistically how you appear.

    That personality (hipsters would say you're "emo") doesn't mix well with live casino play. You let the casinos sucker you into giving them your money. True AP play is an investment. I could put all my money into a mutual fund, but I get more earnings by playing blackjack and splitting it up. I don't have the personality to manage my own stocks--so I invest in mutual funds, and let smarter, more patient people manage it. You don't have the personality to play blackjack for money. If you want to take $100 to your local casino, or $10,000 to Vegas, be my guest. There are worse faults. But if you're honest with yourself about your skills, abilities, and comportment, you know a good investment for your money isn't blackjack.
    Last edited by RCJH; 10-31-2017 at 07:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    "First poor post from Don I have read in my 2-3 years on these forums."

    It wasn't a "poor" post; it was a negative post. There's a difference. It was a good post, but it said negative things.

    "More often, he either addresses the question or he ignores it. I am sorry to know it bothers him."

    It doesn't bother me. It bothers me that others think you can be rehabilitated and spend so much time (and bandwidth) trying. I was simply expressing my opinion. I don't think you have the emotional stability to play the game properly. That isn't being unkind; it's being honest and realistic. If you can't accept results for the meaningless blips that they are and just PLAY without agonizing over every hand, you are much better off not playing at all.

    Don
    Don, now this is better. You are correct and in prior posts I have admitted that my biggest opponent is my character/personality. It is what I am trying to overcome.

    Besides a life of frugality (cheap), in person I am an extreme introvert and a nomad (lived in 8 states and 24 cities in last 50 years) to whom work was everything. I knew retirement was coming and I needed something and took up BJ. I am happy I got to the point where I am a better than even played but now am trying to perhaps earn $15k a year after expenses.

    Like the forums, I enjoy "talking" to anonymous folks at casinos. Now, it's trying to get better at BJ. Even with a now $50k BR, I am still reluctant to put out max bets and panic when my BE drops under $45k.

    All of you, and especially you for convincing me that the math is right, have helped me greatly. You have helped me stay with my count when I had doubts HiLo would work, others have encouraged me when I had thoughts of quitting and many others have, often with ridicule, helped me make the right decisions such as putting down a full doubledown or splitting 9's against a 10 or not playing to please poppies at the table.

    I am sorry that I start so many threads but I notice that the forums can sometimes need some action. The other forum is now quite dead because anything less than a high level subject gets the few posters there to lash out.

    In any case,no offense. I admire you and am thrilled that you are the writer/author that participates and provides a significant legitimacy to these forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    " ... helped me make the right decisions ...
    putting down a full doubledown or splitting
    9's against a 10"
    What the hell?

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