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    What's the paytable on the lucky ladies? Usually the trigger won't be until +7 true count unless they are using the favourable double deck paytable for a multideck game, a la casino du montreal. 100% bankroll growth within 24 hours seems optimistic / reckless.
    Optimistic for sure. I don't certainly want to be reckless. The payouts mean nothing but the casino I'm going to cuts off less than one deck out of six and the dealers are easily influenced. I told one I had OCD and I have to see things in half we la to be balanced and ok. Told her I know they have regulations or whatever but asked her if she wouldn't mind cutting close to half a deck as possible for my sanity. If she was being wa5 he's I'd understand. She cut a half deck off next two shoes and was releaved. Saw her again and said remember my little idiosyncratic problem? I appre I ate you taking me seriously and laughed. Cut as close to a half a deck as she could for next 2 or 3 shoes. Anyway, combine the possibly wonderful penetration with high TC 3 decks left and perfect storm.....payouts... Any 20 is 4 to 1. Same suit is 9 to 1. These are 25 dollar max bet. Same suit and rank 19 to 1. These are the ones that make th2 money. Theres also a 250 to one for queen of hearts pair and 1000 to one one two queen hearts vs dealer blackjack. I do plan on having my girl with me and sitting down for two hands. We will have 4x25 lucky ladies max bets true 7 and up for multiple hands. Will have tw hands of 50 and she will have table minimum. Its 110 dollars more than my top bet of 2x50 would be but with 4 hands true 7 good things happen. Same suit 9 to 1 payout. Happens a lot. Two hands or even three of 20 in same hand. 4 to 1 payout on each. I do well on my two bets of 50 at true seven blackjack and surrender. Its rare not to leave a shoe like this 150 to 250 units ahead. Not sure if the girlfriend is needed w one other player but definitely with 2...

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    If it isn't positive to play until TC +7, then don't play until then. Even though you might anecdotally see lots of 20s at the lower TCs mentioned in your first post, it is not a high enough TC at +5 to overcome the house edge if it isn't positive to play until +7.

    I do not use hilo or play lucky ladies with it. I do know with so much of the payoffs due to the Qh payoff that it is often best to wait a TC or two past the pivot point for more certainty of winning. The pay schedule matters too. They all have different house edges and therefore different counts at which they become positive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix View Post
    If it isn't positive to play until TC +7, then don't play until then. Even though you might anecdotally see lots of 20s at the lower TCs mentioned in your first post, it is not a high enough TC at +5 to overcome the house edge if it isn't positive to play until +7.

    I do not use hilo or play lucky ladies with it. I do know with so much of the payoffs due to the Qh payoff that it is often best to wait a TC or two past the pivot point for more certainty of winning. The pay schedule matters too. They all have different house edges and therefore different counts at which they become positive.

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    What count do you use if you don't mind? I wouldn't do wider lucky ladies without the great penetration

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    Quote Originally Posted by bshoemaker1002 View Post
    What count do you use if you don't mind? I wouldn't do wider lucky ladies without the great penetration

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    I use hiopt2 in a weird way to approximate a 10 count. I personally play it any time my count is high enough even if it's early in the shoe.

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    You take 25 off your max bet to play it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bshoemaker1002 View Post
    You take 25 off your max bet to play it?
    No. I play it concurrently with my normal max. Lucky Ladies is a separate bet from the main blackjack bet so I treat it as such. It is as though I am playing both advantages separately, I just happen to be playing them at the same time. I don't see my max as the aggregate of both. Come to think of it, I don't actually know my RoR for the LL bet, I just bet it. I have a large enough bankroll to not have to worry much about it with the typical 25$ max on the side bet. Your BR sounds small. Remember a good portion of the edge comes from the top pay out, so for much of the time you will be losing on the side bet.

    If you are going to have your gf playing with you, you may have her do a 10's count for the side bet so you can bet it more accurately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix View Post
    I personally play it concurrently with my normal max. Lucky Ladies is a separate bet from the main blackjack bet so I treat it as such. I don't see my max as the aggregate of both.

    If you are going to have your gf playing with you, you may have her do a 10's count for the side bet so you can bet it more accurately.
    I wish she was smart enough.

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    How dumb is she. An elementary school kid could be taught this count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    How dumb is she. An elementary school kid could be taught this count.
    She may be a touch retarded. I admit. But she's a giver...so there's that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three View Post
    How dumb is she. An elementary school kid could be taught this count.
    You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. Counting is fairly simple anyone could do it if they tried. If someone isn't driven to do it, they won't. Most girls have more important things to do, like shop for shoes and stuff. I totally understand her not wanting to learn. It isn't a marker for her intelligence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix View Post
    You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. Counting is fairly simple anyone could do it if they tried. If someone isn't driven to do it, they won't. Most girls have more important things to do, like shop for shoes and stuff. I totally understand her not wanting to learn. It isn't a marker for her intelligence.

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    Dude no. I get what you're saying. She isn't capable. Its like living with a real smart dog. Nah...I'm jus messing around. You're right. She has no desire. Few people do

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    I am married to a woman who has a pre-med B.S. and an M.B.A.
    She took several years of calculus, etc. She worked as a scientist
    doing PCR work in genetic engineering for many years. She has
    yet another A.P. advantage that my BJ partners all understand.

    I tried to interest her in playing BJ, utilizing her high I.Q., but it
    was to no avail.

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    I did watch a ploppy get paid $25,000 for having paired
    Queens of Hearts while the dealer held a blackjack.
    The 'suits' looked like they had been diagnosed with H.I.V.

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