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    Day 1 - FIRST TIME BJ PLAY at casino after weeks of practicing CVBJ Verite!!!

    I just came back from 8 hours of playing blackjack at a foreigners-only casino in South Korea.
    This was my first time playing BJ at a casino (actually my first time ever playing at a casino).
    Since I am a very cowardish and careful person, I practiced everyday about a month using
    CVBJ. I was hesitant to play at first, because I thought the BJ table was six-deck was rather
    an eight-deck, but I still went on:

    Eight-Deck
    Stand on all 17
    RSA (no double after splitting aces)
    Can double any cards
    DAS
    Can split any number of repeating cards
    Late Surrender any cards
    BJ Paid 3-to-2
    Penetration 65%-70% (ouch)
    Insurance available
    ***ZERO HEAT
    for 1) bet spread, and 2) wonging out.

    I am a FELT-F/Full Indices player.

    Number of Players Played Together:
    Always at least 3 players were at the table - because of shortage of tables.

    Wong-in Option (X):
    Checking out the atmosphere of the casino, there are only three $10 minimum tables,
    so many times the tables are full, and most of them play until the end even when the
    TC goes very negative => I crossed out "wong-in +2" option.

    Wong-out Option (O):
    It was a chill atmosphere where some people leave (phone, bathroom break, "tilted"),
    and only few people complain about it, saying that they "mess up the flow", lol.
    I wonged-out only when TC <-2 at deep penetration.

    Two-hand Spread Option:
    Some people ranted at me when I went back and forth between two-hand and one-hand
    when the table wasn't even full - complaining that I "mess up the flow", lol i just ignored them.
    So I decided to go back and forth only when 2,3 players are playing.

    Result: 8 hours of playing => ~$250 profit.
    I started with bank roll of $500, but I was nervous and scared that I actually cashed in
    only $300. So basically, I only used $300 to turn it into a $250 profit.

    Betting Spread*** (sth I found intriguing):
    I knew that in general larger the spread, higher SCORE; but since my bankroll was
    ridiculously low, I decided to use only 1-2 Betting spread, but only when the
    penetration gets deeper, I used 1-4 bet spread.

    INTERESTING THING I LEARNED***:
    I only have been practicing six-deck using CVBJ, and it seemed the betting & playing
    according to correct TC (using correct full indices) in eight-deck shoe doesn't mean
    as much at the beginning of the shoe (at low penetration)
    . So I almost flat-betted
    at low penetration, betting only 1 unit until TC +2. AT FIRST, I USED 1-5 SPREAD
    (1 UNIT AT TC+1, 2 UNIT AT TC+2, 3 UNIT AT TC+3, ETC) BUT
    I LOST ALL MY PROFITS ($300) IN LIKE AN HOUR.

    So I was tilted and timidly went back to 1-2 Betting Spread, and carefully spread to
    1-3 at deeper penetration (starting at about 50%). So in last two hours, step by step,
    again gained about $250 profit and left.

    Now please, questions for all of you - I'd appreciate if you could answer!!

    1) Am I correct in thinking that betting spread should change at different penetration
    (depth) for many-deck games, like eight-deck?

    2) If yes to the previous question, does CVBJ/CVData have options to
    find out which betting spread is effective at different penetration (depth)?

    3) Any corrections to this thread are welcomed, please.

    4) I still have yet to find out whether playing Two-Hand whole-shoe
    is better than playing One-hand. Due to the atmosphere of the casino,
    I think I should stick with one whole shoe unless there are only
    few people at the table.

    Thank you!
    Last edited by Planisphere; 10-12-2017 at 06:01 AM.

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