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    Tipping the Dealer

    Is the dealer better off just dropping the tip or playing the tip?

    On the surface it would seem the dealer would be better off just keeping the tip and not playing it. However, if you only tip when you have an advantage that could change the situation. Also most of the time in double down or split situations the tipper usually takes the dealer along. Any thoughts on best way to tip the dealer? I have tipped many different ways over the years.

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    OK, I'll be the first to say it. The best way to tip is don't.

    Beyond that, if you feel the need, it's better for the dealer to drop the tip. You are only winning 42% of hands, even when you have an advantage. Some of that advantage comes from doubles and splits. It is -EV and you are a fool to double your tip in those instances.

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    The good thing about Australia is that all states prohibit tipping the dealer.

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    in most instances when a counter tips it is not appreciated . many times the dealer make a sarcastic remark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stopgambling View Post
    in most instances when a counter tips it is not appreciated . many times the dealer make a sarcastic remark.
    That is an exaggeration unless you place a $1 trip while betting black chips or tip a dealer a $1 after hitting a BJ with a $300 bet. Most dealers appreciate tips, some even hustle for tips. Now, if they are in a bad mood and you are insulting the casino by placing bets at TC4, sitting out hands, upsetting the rest of the table...

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    Oh, and don't waste your tip if someone on the table is tipping big.

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    First of all, I think giving a dealer *modest* tips is appropriate. But, it is a cost of doing business. Don't give away all your profits in the form of tips back to the dealer.

    I will tip into positive counts, never negative counts.

    I do NOT tip based upon my results. I tip because the dealer has a good pace, is friendly, etc. I will tip when I'm ahead or when I'm losing. Again, modestly. In the casinos where I play frequently I believe it's important to NOT have the reputation of stiffing the dealer.

    I will say this: If the dealer does NOT thank me or acknowledge the tip ("thanks for the try", or "thanks for the bet"), I will not provide additional tips. I do expect the courtesy of a "thank you."

    Finally, I agree that you cannot tip $1 on a bet of $100 or more. Better to bet nothing than just come across as being cheap.

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    If they try to tip hustle just tell them "You want a tip? Plant your corn early."

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    I know casinos where most dealers will cut very thin.
    A good dealer deals fast and cuts thin. Assuming that ...
    I toke with high frequency for very small amounts.
    I often buy a stack of small chips when I begin to
    signal my intentions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    I know casinos where most dealers will cut very thin.
    A good dealer deals fast and cuts thin. Assuming that ...
    I toke with high frequency for very small amounts.
    I often buy a stack of small chips when I begin to
    signal my intentions.
    +1 for ZMF

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    Tipping the Dealer

    I've tipped many ways but started tipping similar to a session fee at a poker table. I tip at the end of the dealers shift.
    I've noticed that tipping at the end of the shift helps them remember me when they come back from break.
    The amount is usually larger than tipping throughout the shift so it's more meaningful/memorable.
    The new dealer coming in sees the tip. Sometimes it helps steer the conversation to better pen, speed, joking around about a good shoe, etc.
    Most importantly I found it takes the pressure off me. Should I tip? Should I not tip? When should I? How much? Etc. I sit down knowing the amount I'll tip and when. This also only happens if I'm still alive by the end of the shift. If the dealer cleans me out there's nothing left to tip with. If I'm still alive I'll tip. If I have a hefty profit I might tip a little more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    That is an exaggeration unless you place a $1 trip while betting black chips or tip a dealer a $1 after hitting a BJ with a $300 bet.
    Zee ,you may overlook how much you are really tipping . Tipping is very costly . $1 tip for a $300 bet is probably 1/3 of EV or 1/2 of EV ,depending on your bet ramp. I tip about 10% of my total Ev which is still a lot to me. Zee, you may not be bother by giving 25% to 30% of your EV to the dealers but i do. At the end of the day no one cares if i get back off after i gave 20% of my EV hoping to average out to 10% in a course of several sessions which never did had a chance to be played out. My opinions is nobody(casino personnel) gives a hoot! " Just drop your donation into the tray " and go home .

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    Quote Originally Posted by stopgambling View Post
    Zee ,you may overlook how much you are really tipping . Tipping is very costly . $1 tip for a $300 bet is probably 1/3 of EV or 1/2 of EV ,depending on your bet ramp. I tip about 10% of my total Ev which is still a lot to me. Zee, you may not be bother by giving 25% to 30% of your EV to the dealers but i do. At the end of the day no one cares if i get back off after i gave 20% of my EV hoping to average out to 10% in a course of several sessions which never did had a chance to be played out. My opinions is nobody(casino personnel) gives a hoot! " Just drop your donation into the tray " and go home .
    I generally tip $0 unless there is a good reason for me to tip anything. I never tip during a session. If I tip at all, it's at the end of a winning session, and only then in front of floor and for some sort of actual purpose. I will generally toss off whatever is laying around. A 2.50 chip, some silver and a white chip, etc.

    I don't think it's a leak, and I don't believe it adds up too much.

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