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  1. 09-30-2017, 02:39 AM #1
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    6 card charlie vs composition dependent strategy

    Game is single deck s17 no das d9-11
    Player hits to 6 cards is auto win

    What trumps a hand like a 4 card 12 (consisting of 4,3,3,2) v dealer 6?

    Composition dependent strat says to stand, while 6 card charlie strat says to hit
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    Quote Originally Posted by blueman View Post
    Game is single deck s17 no das d9-11
    Player hits to 6 cards is auto win

    What trumps a hand like a 4 card 12 (consisting of 4,3,3,2) v dealer 6?

    Composition dependent strat says to stand, while 6 card charlie strat says to hit
    Obviously, the 6-card strategy! If a special chart has been constructed for 6-card, then you follow THAT chart!

    Don
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  3. 09-30-2017, 11:26 AM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    Obviously, the 6-card strategy! If a special chart has been constructed for 6-card, then you follow THAT chart!

    Don
    So should i use the composition strat whenever the 6 card rule doesnt apply?

    6 card rule adds 0.16%
    Comp strat for single deck adds 0.04%

    With the 2 together, would it be adding less than 0.20% since sometimes the 6 card rule trumps the comp strat?

    (Every 0.01% equals out to over $200 for me, so its important)
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    Maybe you'll find help here? -

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramazeka View Post
    Maybe you'll find help here? -

    https://github.com/mustgoplay/MGPs-BJ-CA
    What is this? When i click the link i just get sent to a sketchy looking thing
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    MGPs Blackjack Combinatorial Analysis. Exact calculations including splits and insurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueman View Post
    What is this? When i click the link i just get sent to a sketchy looking thing
    Go to this link and scroll down. There are files of the program that will help you understand all the issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    Obviously, the 6-card strategy! If a special chart has been constructed for 6-card, then you follow THAT chart!

    Don
    Don, do i just totally dismiss the composition dependent strategy if im using the 6 card charlie chart? Or are there still some spots to use the composition strat if the 6 card charlie doesnt apply?
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    What your specific hand shows is that with the set given (the 4-card 12 you gave), that you stand.

    It did NOT give you the average of the 4-card 12 for the Chuck rule.

    "What trumps a hand like a 4 card 12 (consisting of 4,3,3,2) v dealer 6?"

    Another hand composition, or any other n-level card composition. Maybe a 5-Card composition 12 vs 6? There is a lot of those I would imagine? A2AAA10?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogman_1234 View Post
    What your specific hand shows is that with the set given (the 4-card 12 you gave), that you stand.

    It did NOT give you the average of the 4-card 12 for the Chuck rule.

    "What trumps a hand like a 4 card 12 (consisting of 4,3,3,2) v dealer 6?"

    Another hand composition, or any other n-level card composition. Maybe a 5-Card composition 12 vs 6? There is a lot of those I would imagine? A2AAA10?
    I meant does the comp strat or the charlie strat trump the 12 v 6 example i gave, not if other hands trump it
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    Does 6 card charliee strat change if its single deck only 1 round dealt vs infinite decks? Wiz of odds has the strat but its for infinite number of decks. He says it would be slightly different for single deck but doesn't have it listed anywhere
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    Quote Originally Posted by blueman View Post
    Does 6 card charliee strat change if its single deck only 1 round dealt vs infinite decks? Wiz of odds has the strat but its for infinite number of decks. He says it would be slightly different for single deck but doesn't have it listed anywhere
    Why do not you count this on the program, the link to which I provided ? This is one of the best programs in the world for these calculations.

    Help this program-
    "Shoe can be any finite number of decks (arbitrary cut-off at 500), infinite
    or forced to have any combination of cards including specific suits combinations (not specific
    tens though).
    Infinite decks can be forced to have any proportion of cards."
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  13. 10-01-2017, 03:49 AM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramazeka View Post
    Why do not you count this on the program, the link to which I provided ? This is one of the best programs in the world for these calculations.

    Help this program-
    "Shoe can be any finite number of decks (arbitrary cut-off at 500), infinite
    or forced to have any combination of cards including specific suits combinations (not specific
    tens though).
    Infinite decks can be forced to have any proportion of cards."
    I tried on my phone, couldn't figure out what i was looking at. Only good for actual computer?
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