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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    You have just relinquished the genius from your handle. Please replace with something contra indicated.
    Both Hi Lo and Halves have BC close to 100. As long as face and ace carry the same weight, the system is close to perfect on betting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJGenius007 View Post
    Both Hi Lo and Halves have BC close to 100. As long as face and ace carry the same weight, the system is close to perfect on betting.
    Hopeless. Have a peek.

    https://www.qfit.com/card-counting.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Would have been crappy in the count room that night
    Oh, the horror - essence of Freightman. Sulphur matches for the count room
    Left em a slider
    You only get the legend status if you actually leave the bills for the cleaners. Good lord, I should have known better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJGenius007 View Post
    The best betting system (not playing system) is Hi-Lo. If you want to use other counting system solely on better playing efficiency, you need to adjust your betting based on the principle that ace and face should have equal weight.

    In other words, because Hi-Lo naturally has same weight on ace and face, your betting RC is the same as your main RC. If you use other counting system, you need to calculate the betting RC. For example, if you use Hi-Opt 2 and main RC is +8, ace side count is +3 (3 aces rich), also assuming 2 decks left. Then the betting RC = +8 + 2 x (+3) = +14. The betting TC = +14 / 2 = +7. This is because ace should have the same weight as face but in the main count, aces carry no weight. (Face tag is -2 and ace tag is 0 on Hi-Opt 2.)
    Seriously, you need to give your head a shake. Espousing faulty comments, which sound like there is some intelligence behind the faulty logic, is a disservice to those who think you know what you're talking about.

    Now, if you want to espouse hi lo as a system that will get the money, no problem with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Seriously, you need to give your head a shake. Espousing faulty comments, which sound like there is some intelligence behind the faulty logic, is a disservice to those who think you know what you're talking about.

    Now, if you want to espouse hi lo as a system that will get the money, no problem with that.
    Sometimes the best one happens to be the simplest one. For betting purpose, Hi-Lo is the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJGenius007 View Post
    Sometimes the best one happens to be the simplest one. For betting purpose, Hi-Lo is the best.
    Then you need to qualify your assertion by stating that your comments are based on simplicity. The readership are not mind readers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJGenius007 View Post
    Sometimes the best one happens to be the simplest one. For betting purpose, Hi-Lo is the best.
    This is simply not true. For betting purposes Halves out performs Hi-Lo. In order to be completely accurate, a system must be based on the effect that removing a card of any value will have on the player’s advantage in the remaining deck. Halves comes very close to doing this.

    Here is table showing effect of removal of each card. You can't look at just the value of Ace and Ten. The 5 card really hurts the player so Halves count values this card more.
    https://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/appendix/7/

    Now Hi-Lo might be the best system due to ease of use and other factors, but it isn't the best for betting purposes. Freightman was right in saying you have to qualify your asseration.
    Last edited by Midwest Player; 09-25-2017 at 09:27 PM.

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