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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix View Post
    They lurk too. Can't tell if he posts or not, but there's a pit boss I know who very actively watches this forum. He's often talking about it with other pit people and occasionally me, which is super awkward.

    Any time someone posts a place isn't watched or otherwise makes it sound inviting, it always smells fishy to me. It's the main reason I haven't hit one poster up for coffee who lives in a place I frequent.

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    But in korea?
    It would make sense the one time i give helpful advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix View Post
    They lurk too. Can't tell if he posts or not, but there's a pit boss I know who very actively watches this forum. He's often talking about it with other pit people and occasionally me, which is super awkward.
    Doesn't he know this is a "voodoo forum"? It' s been posted thousands of times elsewhere -- 3,278 times by one person in another forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Doesn't he know this is a "voodoo forum"? It' s been posted thousands of times elsewhere -- 3,278 times by one person in another forum.
    So a pitty is trying to get a bead on bets in korea?

    Omg if i ever heard a critter talking about this forum at a table I would burn that place immediately just to see the look on his face when i said i had gave him a helpful post

    (Which the OP, PC or not, is free to give me..every little bit does the job)

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    I have no idea. I've never been to Korea. May be legitimate.

    I prefer to milk instead of burn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm View Post
    Doesn't he know this is a "voodoo forum"? It' s been posted thousands of times elsewhere -- 3,278 times by one person in another forum.
    Haha no. He takes it seriously. So seriously it's comical. I should have someone tell him it's voodoo and to stop reading it, lol. Are you sure 3278 times and not 3275? :-P that's rather specific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NB10 View Post
    How long did it take you?
    The first 100k took just under 3 years playing red chip, usual max about $100, or less. I played a lot. Next 200k took about 3 years at usual $25 min. That's a guess - would have to look at records to be more definitive. Just got back home from a weekend trip - about 16 hours play time against roughly $5600, less $300 or $350 expense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    The first 100k took just under 3 years playing red chip, usual max about $100, or less. I played a lot. Next 200k took about 3 years at usual $25 min. That's a guess - would have to look at records to be more definitive. Just got back home from a weekend trip - about 16 hours play time against roughly $5600, less $300 or $350 expense.
    I'm going to have a look later at the time line and total dollars. Numbers might be off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    The first 100k took just under 3 years playing red chip, usual max about $100, or less. I played a lot.
    That is hard to believe. Playing a very good game at red chip level the best you can get is about $40 an hour. At 500 hours a year that is only $20,000. If you had a full time job I don't see how you could get more than 500 hours in a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    That is hard to believe. Playing a very good game at red chip level the best you can get is about $40 an hour. At 500 hours a year that is only $20,000. If you had a full time job I don't see how you could get more than 500 hours in a year.
    500 hours a year...you must not play a lot to consider that a reasonable sum for a full time AP.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix View Post
    I have no idea. I've never been to Korea. May be legitimate.

    I prefer to milk instead of burn.

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    Optimizing not maximizing. Smart move. Also. Big ups for those sims. You're fantastic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    That is hard to believe. Playing a very good game at red chip level the best you can get is about $40 an hour. At 500 hours a year that is only $20,000. If you had a full time job I don't see how you could get more than 500 hours in a year.
    Your both right and wrong. Still haven't gone to the basement where the computers are, and where my office is. Really don't spend much time there anymore.

    In any event, I gave the numbers for years 2,3 and 4 respectively at, as memory serves, 27,20 and 52k respectively - 99k.
    Year 1 (2008), and excluding the 2 months of 2007, winning as my recollection permits, the princely sum of about $2 per hour. Adding year 1 (2008) is not material, as such ($4700), which then is about 103k taking 4 years.

    I'm missing the order, but I do have 2 other years equalling 200k (122 and 75k), 1 loss year of 20k, 1 small profit and 1 medium year equalling about 50k. This year, I'm playing maybe 15-20 hours a month, and am up close to 30k.

    As for work, I started scaling back about 10 years ago, replacing that stress with a different activity - called blackjack. It was less stressful, and coincided with some health issues. Essentially, I played most business day afternoons, putting in somewhat substantially more than 500 hours per year.

    When I started, local red chip games were high quality. I preferred that environment, regardless of bankroll growth, as it kept me under the radar. As local red chip conditions went to shit, that is when I went to green chip (bankroll was then about 85k) towards the end of 2011, finally buys g CVdata and CVCX, and coincidentally was the start of most of my backoffs.

    MP, remember, I worked for me, and I guarantee you my boss is very lenient, a super nice guy, who let me work when and how I want - and I guarantee that I didn't suffer.

    My memory engrams are ingrained with reams of data over and above basic. I've played probably close to a million hands. Don't practice much anymore - what interests me are nuances. Regardless of that attitude and my slowdown in play I think my game is the best it's ever been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fringe View Post
    500 hours a year...you must not play a lot to consider that a reasonable sum for a full time AP.


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    If you're not playing locally, then, 500 hours a year is a lot. It requires planning and execution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    If you're not playing locally, then, 500 hours a year is a lot. It requires planning and execution.
    When I was working the most hours in any one year was just under 400 hours. The most hours I got in when I wasn't working was 882 hours. And in both cases that was a lot of blackjack. By comparison, this year so far I have only 148 hours.

    Freightman, did you just start playing blackjack in 2008? I thought you were on BJ21 going back much further than that.

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