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    I recently saw a dealer wongout with a + 2 TC

    I believe it was an honest mistake, as this dealer would not have a clue about the pack being positive.

    Lady at first base colors up, and upon completion dealer takes remaining cards out of shoe with 2.5 remaining, with 1.5 decks left to play before cut card is seen. I instantly call him out, as the cards are barely out of the shoe, and he says, sorry, I just assumed because of color up. I said okay no one saw anything just put them back, he calls floor over who says re-shuffle. I immediately thought house payback, as a little earlier while playing heads up, I asked for and received a re-shuffle. Dumb stupid dealers.
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    Was the count that good to get the floor involved?

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    Didn't this muppet see that there was another human being sitting right in front of him at the table?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by paymypush View Post
    Was the count that good to get the floor involved?

    No it was not, and I thought he would shove them back in as his hands holding the break in cards was still above the shoe. I stupidly thought he would try to avoid calling the floor, as he could easily have shoved them back in.

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    Wow, no concern for cover?

    If I am the floor, you just went up several steps on my radar.
    Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth View Post
    Wow, no concern for cover?

    If I am the floor, you just went up several steps on my radar.
    Not to mention asking for a shuffle. That has to go through the floor as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth View Post
    Wow, no concern for cover?

    If I am the floor, you just went up several steps on my radar.

    The dealer asked the floor what he should do period, not that I brought it to his attention and asked to continue.

    Quote Originally Posted by paymypush View Post
    Not to mention asking for a shuffle. That has to go through the floor as well.

    You have to know your casino, and I rarely ask.

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    Ploppy errors can either hurt you or help you on any particular hand. A dealer error, which can also help you or hurt you, can cost you several hundreds of dollars. This is often exacerbated by a tough luck ruling by the C.O.D. (Critter on duty).

    Granted, mistakes can happen. Your protest is to forego tips, beat the crap out of them, return, beat the crap out if them, rinse and repeat. I find it repugnant that rules often settle issues in favour of the house. I had one such occurrence last night. Fortunately, the cost was limited to about $200. These financial issues are cumulative, and so, I have no sympathy to the house a it pertains to payoff errors in my favour. Depending on the house, or the dealer, I may or may not return the payoff.

    The largest payoff error in my favour, occurred a few years ago, after numb nuts combo dealer and critter cost me a $1200 swing after skipping my hand on a double. About 2-3 weeks later, another dealer, Miss goody 2 shoes for the house smile at your face, stab you in the back, screwed up. She was usually very efficient, and this was a massive fuckup of at least 2k. I didn't stop to count, but involved paying all my max doubles and splits on 2 hands, after insuring and dealer getting the snapper. Shit happens.

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    Were you about to Wong-in? Was this in Vegas? If both are true, I might suspect some foul play. Dealer may have done it on purpose upon seeing your large bets approaching the felt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vagabond View Post
    Were you about to Wong-in? Was this in Vegas? If both are true, I might suspect some foul play. Dealer may have done it on purpose upon seeing your large bets approaching the felt.
    No not Vegas, and I was already seated and playing, but a few of this joint's dealers have attitudes and push very hard for tokes. If you are not giving up to their expectations, they will attempt various tricks like calling a incorrect short total for a color up, try a short pay on a blackjack, or on a surrender etc etc. So it very well could have been done on purpose.

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