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[blueman]

How can i calculate the bankroll needed to play this game?

Its Jacks or better that pays 99.54% but then i get either 0.7% back in comps or 0.56% cash.

$5 per credit at 3, 5, or 10 play

[Stealth]

The software from Bob Dancer website has all the math and more. A good investment if you plan on attacking these games.

[Joe Mama]

With this thin of an advantage, make sure you account for your error rate. 0.1% error rate is quite good 0.05% is excellent.

Play a few thousand hands on Dancer's software to determine.

[blueman]

With this thin of an advantage, make sure you account for your error rate. 0.1% error rate is quite good 0.05% is excellent.

Joe can you run the numbers for me? The game is only for tomorrow, i cant get VPW software by then..

And if im lucky enough with the draw, the game is worth up to an added 10% in comps or 5.6% cash back.

What kind of swings can i expect with 3, 5 or 10 play? In like a 10 hour Session

Please help!

[Joe Mama]

Joe can you run the numbers for me? The game is only for tomorrow, i cant get VPW software by then..

And if im lucky enough with the draw, the game is worth up to an added 10% in comps or 5.6% cash back.

What kind of swings can i expect with 3, 5 or 10 play? In like a 10 hour Session

Please help!

I have Dancer's older software which doesn't do the ROR -- this is not of much interest to me because I am not in any danger of losing my bankroll. If you truly have a 5-10% play, I would go for the 10 play. You should be able to play ~60,000 hands in 10 hours. You should hit a royal on average every 40,390 hands. If you are unlucky and don't hit a royal you will lose ~2.5% of your throughput (.025 X 60000 X bet per hand).

[blueman]

I have Dancer's older software which doesn't do the ROR -- this is not of much interest to me because I am not in any danger of losing my bankroll. If you truly have a 5-10% play, I would go for the 10 play. You should be able to play ~60,000 hands in 10 hours. You should hit a royal on average every 40,390 hands. If you are unlucky and don't hit a royal you will lose ~2.5% of your throughput (.025 X 60000 X bet per hand).

Yeah it all depends on what multiplier i get. Usually minimum

[bigplayer]

For Jacks or Better expect a result between +/- 5% of your total action to cover most possible results. If you play 10hrs of 9/6 Jacks on a 10 play 25c game you should bring at least $5000 with you and you should be able to make it through the day. 10-Play 50c bring $10,000, 10play $1 bring $20,000. You'll likely not lose more than 1/2 of that but sometimes it gets pretty bad. On more volatile games like Deuces I've lost 9% of total action many times, but usually only for 3-4hrs of play.

For a real answer there is software for that.

[Joe Mama]

Yeah it all depends on what multiplier i get. Usually minimum

If what you are playing "Times Pay" (average multiplier 4.05, average occurrence 1 in 15) the multiplier works out to an additional 0.28%

[Dog Hand]

How can i calculate the bankroll needed to play this game?

Its Jacks or better that pays 99.54% but then i get either 0.7% back in comps or 0.56% cash.

$5 per credit at 3, 5, or 10 play

blueman,

Dunbar's Risk Analyzer for Video Poker v2.0 - CD is available for a double sawbuck at

https://www.shoplva.com/products/dun...deo-poker-v2-0

It will definitively answer these types of questions... I know.

Dog Hand

[blueman]

If what you are playing "Times Pay" (average multiplier 4.05, average occurrence 1 in 15) the multiplier works out to an additional 0.28%

No it was a comp/cash back thing

[RS]

VPW shows you need an $88k bankroll for a 13.5% ROR for 10-play.



To me, $20k still sounds a bit risky. Just started running it on VPW ($20k session roll, 6k rounds). EDIT: I'm stupid, I thought BP said $20k for $5 denom 10-play.


For those interested, I ran the sim for $50k session roll, 6000 rounds, $5 10-play 9/6 JOB. The player ran out of money 13.78% of the time.



But most importantly, how do you not have VPW or some software to analyze this stuff for you?

[Frank Galvin]

Joe can you run the numbers for me? The game is only for tomorrow, i cant get VPW software by then..

And if im lucky enough with the draw, the game is worth up to an added 10% in comps or 5.6% cash back.

What kind of swings can i expect with 3, 5 or 10 play? In like a 10 hour Session

Please help!

Not sure why you say you can't get software in time.

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