Just finished reading entire forum - here's what I've learned

[Ustonzen]

Ive never gotten to the second hump on any camel

[ZenMaster_Flash]

"Ive never gotten to the second hump on any camel"

So your expertise in bestiality is less than your expertise in BJ-related sarcasm?

[Ustonzen]

The camel is a direct, straightforward animal - it appreciates my playing..efficiency

[Frank Galvin]

So, to be clear - I now understand that the year 13 within a decade is goat-humping, that the year 18 is chump-stuffing.
Your challenge now is to suitably name each and every year within a decade, with suitable descriptions.

Caveat - any reference to camel humping must specify 1 or 2 humps.

Methinks you meant century, not decade. Hey, but what do I know? I am only another of tens of thousands of lowlife lawyers. ????*????

[Ustonzen]

dong longing
Bum rummaging
choad goafering
Cock knockering
Sac knackering
Taint maimering
gooch smoochering
Wang bangering
Douche smooshering
Poo remover

[Freightman]

Where is Freighter when you need him? Please post that cartoon of Yosemite Sam riding a camel. He's bopping along screaming WHOA camel. But the camel won't stop. So Sam pulls out his rifle and bashes the camel in the head. Then Yosemite Sam rants "when I say Whoa Camel, I mean whooooaaa caaameeel."

When I have time, I may tell the story of the guy stranded in the desert, his camel refusing to move, signalling he wants a blow job before he's prepared to go forward.

Moses, as a matter of curiosity - what would you do?

[Freightman]

dong longing
Bum rummaging
choad goafering
Cock knockering
Sac knackering
Taint maimering
gooch smoochering
Wang bangering
Douche smooshering
Poo remover

I can see it now - year of the wang bangering.

[Gronbog]

Yes, the system is complex, but let's not over-glorify what is happening and why it's taking so long.

It's not the sims themselves which are taking so long, it's the development of the software. This is mainly due to the diligence we are taking to ensure that the results are credible and that Tarzan is completely confident in their accuracy. I summarized this earlier in another thread, but here it is again:

1. I first reproduced some Hi-Opt II results from CVData+CVCX in order to demonstrate that my software framework is correct. Norm and Don were very helpful during this phase as was Dog Hand. The other reason we used Hi-Opt II was because it is the system we chose for initial comparison.
2. I then implemented Tarzan's system in 3 levels: T Basic, T Expert, T Expert with Key Cards (need a catchier name for that last one!).
3. At each level, Tarzan has reviewed logs for the playing of each hand (thousands of lines for each) to make sure that the internal logic is correct as well as the final decisions.
4. After some initial results of the final level, Tarzan realized that some calibration of the key card adjustments were in order. That's where we are now, although we believe we can see light at the end of that tunnel (or is it a train?).

Stages 3 and 4 are what have taken 99% of the time.

Try to understand that the simulations are complex, not simple.
Think many many iterations of many shoe compositions.
Many.

While this is true, at the end of the day, each simulation uses the standard 20 billion iterations from BJA3 Chapter 10. My software is not nearly as fast as Norm's. Each sim takes a couple of days, where it would be a matter of hours for CVData+CVCX. Still, lack of computing resources is not the reason for the length of the project.

This is NOT being done with just Norm Wattenberg's. It is taking
several expert programmers.

Nope --- it's just me

Incidentally, expert level play of my Spanish21 "Flash III Count"
requires > 400 indices the simulations for only one of several
versions of the game available took some billions of iterations,
taking rather well over a year to complete.

Once again, most of that time was spent enhancing my software in order to handle the complete range of games of interest. My version of the "beat it to death" algorithm for index generation is not as fast as Norm's. It took 100 billion iterations for those hundreds of indices to converge which took about a month (per game) on my spare laptop.

On top of this, I am doing this in my spare time (I have a full time career and a family) and also doing work for others.

Once the results are final, it will be up to Tarzan what he publishes and when. I'm not trying to make excuses. I just want to set expectations.

[Ustonzen]

Sweet.
What would be the reason for all this without publishing? For the benefit of a handful of APs who are conneiseurs of the smooth, oaky flavor of their own bathwater?

[Gronbog]

Well, the actual performance of the system has been the subject of many speculative claims over the years, but it has never been simulated in order to produce a SCORE, until now. The final conclusion will boil down to the usual balance between benefit and complexity.

... and whether your bankroll is large enough

[BoSox]

I would say the biggest benefit of a system like this is not EV gain. It is the ability to play unmolested in a very sweaty game.

What a contradiction that statement is. A sweaty casino is going to let you win even more money, until they are completely satisfied that you are an AP. I do not think so.

[Ustonzen]

What a contradiction that statement is. A sweaty casino is going to let you win even more money, until they are completely satisfied that you are an AP. I do not think so.

What kind of act do you think provides the best longevity if youre young and good looking?

[Ustonzen]

Im sure thats just a typo and you meant to write something useful