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    Beatable game straight up?

    Is this game beatable? 3;2,1deck, split one time, DAS, Double any first two. Reshuffle every hand, no resplit aces. Using perfect hand composition and counting( only useful on splits).

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    Quote Originally Posted by shake View Post
    Is this game beatable? 3;2,1deck, split one time, DAS, Double any first two. Reshuffle every hand, no resplit aces. Using perfect hand composition and counting( only useful on splits).
    The long winded answer - no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    The long winded answer - no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shake View Post
    Is this game beatable? 3;2,1deck, split one time, DAS, Double any first two. Reshuffle every hand, no resplit aces. Using perfect hand composition and counting( only useful on splits).
    If the game is S17, it's positive off-the-top.

    Dog Hand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dog Hand View Post
    If the game is S17, it's positive off-the-top.

    Dog Hand
    no it is H17

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    It's almost an even game with the house. Unfortunately splitting only once is what keeps it barely in the house's favor.

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    Why not make use of the resources available on this forum? Check out:

    https://www.blackjacktheforum.com/re...hp?do=edgepage

    Inputting your info reflects the game ranges between a Negative expectation of .046 to .17 against you with the rules you state. The H17 v. S17 seems to make the MOST difference.
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    I play a game very similar to this. While it is not a big earner, the casino that offers it has a great comp system. I can play this game at very low variance and earn very high comps. I in turn use this facility as a home base and play more profitable games nearby.
    I am not the best traveled player on this site by a long shot. I have found, however, that single deck games are best used as comp earners versus income earners in my limited experience.

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    If they would deal a second round, I think it would be a great game. Double after split of SD.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by shake View Post
    Is this game beatable? 3;2,1deck, split one time, DAS, Double any first two. Reshuffle every hand, no resplit aces. Using perfect hand composition and counting( only useful on splits).
    Looks Like, a .046%(not to be confused with.46%) HE. for Single Fixed and you split Aces at least once..Maybe if you could get a table to yourself and play all 7 hands, slightly increasing your bet with each hand.And what count did you say you use?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Jackson View Post
    Looks Like, a .046%(not to be confused with.46%) HE. for Single Fixed and you split Aces at least once..Maybe if you could get a table to yourself and play all 7 hands, slightly increasing your bet with each hand.And what count did you say you use?
    Don't know much about depth charging - sounds interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Jackson View Post
    Looks Like, a .046%(not to be confused with.46%) HE. for Single Fixed and you split Aces at least once..Maybe if you could get a table to yourself and play all 7 hands, slightly increasing your bet with each hand.And what count did you say you use?
    Unlikely to pass muster because most single-deck rules require the table max on all 7 holes. Casinos have known about know about depth-charging for decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Don't know much about depth charging - sounds interesting.
    Quote Originally Posted by Member Name Hidden View Post
    Unlikely to pass muster because most single-deck rules require the table max on all 7 holes. Casinos have known about know about depth-charging for decades.
    Its My understanding that Depth-charging was something we used on the U-boats back in 43? Oh wait minute- wrong subject!

    All kiddin aside, depth charging gives us a wider range of plays to be used because(what i believe) our TC becomes more and more accurate the deeper into the deck or decks we get..Kinda like why you would never stand on 12 vs 2 at the start of 6 deck shoe..Simply put! We dont have enough info yet..With single deck, its possible to be hitting 14 vs 2 after the first round of play giving us a better chance of winning that hand, whereas that would be impossible at the top of a 6 deck game..Also the FA. starts to work in our favor as well...

    I agree Member name hidden, and i was just moreless makin a theoretical example for best case scenario..But at the same, its still a VERY low HE. and heat could very well be non-existent considering theyre only dealing 1 round of play....Nevertheless with a strong playing count and perhaps(just perhaps) if he could play the last 3 boxes, i believe its possible to still make it worthwhile..How much so, i dont know..
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