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    Quote Originally Posted by NB10 View Post
    Would you recommend this over Wong's Blackjack Secrets?
    I'd recommend them both.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mcallister3200 View Post
    If you are a fairly inexperienced player, you are getting a lot of bad advice here that is putting the kart way ahead of the horse.

    Mcallister 3200, you are not kidding, and it is getting much worse!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hypercube View Post
    Originally Posted by NB10
    Wanted to get the thoughts of more experienced players, what are the most effective cover plays for lessening heat whilst minimising the amount of EV sacrificed?

    Hypercube responded with:

    if I have max bet out and i want to split 10s v 4,5,6 i take out my double sided tail coin out and say heads i stand tails I split!! if its a low count i use my double sided head coin!

    NB10, do not listen to Hypercube, he is just a troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    Wait. Hybercube is a troll? Wasn't Don S are many welcoming aboard a few days ago? Man, this soap opera moves so fast.
    Don't discount the possibility that Hypercube is an existing poster simp,y using an alias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freightman View Post
    Don't discount the possibility that Hypercube is an existing poster simp,y using an alias.
    Is Hypercube ZenKing or him using his girlfriend's computer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJGenius007 View Post
    Is Hypercube ZenKing or him using his girlfriend's computer?
    Not his writing style, though I do have my suspicions. Spotting KJ's alter ego was easy. This one is a bit more obscure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    NB10 - the best way to disguise your play is don't give them sufficient information. Keep your sessions short. 3 shoes or less on a 6-8D game. On DD, only show your max bet once, then leave. Yes, this is problematic if you are playing somewhere where there aren't many casinos. That's the nature of the beast.

    Many of the books, such as Ian Anderson's, are out of date. They were written in a time when game conditions were much better and you could afford to give up a little EV with cover play. Also, he was playing big money, which is another way you could afford cover.

    If you listened to this week's GWAE, a $1000/hour play was discussed. The player tipped hundreds. You can't do that at regular BJ at the red or green chip level.
    Thanks for your input. It seems short sessions are the best way along with some interaction with casino personnel. The short session lengths make it a lot harder to increase the number of rounds, but like you said, it seems to be a necessary evil in today's environment.

    I presume his book is still worth reading and adapting the techniques for more modern day casinos though.
    Last edited by NB10; 08-13-2017 at 02:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    NB10, do not listen to Hypercube, he is just a troll.
    Thanks.

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    I do not take serious whatever the trolling or alias or whatever other BS claims a few of you are coming up with on here for no particular reasons. In fact, it is you who are acting like trolls, this thread is supposed to be about cover plays. I have no other ids, or accounts on social media or any other BJ site. A few of you who have emailed me at the address I provided can vouch for that. There is only one person in AP community who knows my real name and only that person knows who he is and i trust them to secrecy.

    My purpose is only to learn and to share information in fellowship. I have no time for frivolous drama or arguments unless it's about maximizing EV or study of this game. I treat bj as a professional adding supplemental income to support my family. Any advice given is from my direct experience or simulations, whether it may be wrong or right in your viewpoint, it is my honest thoughts.

    The coin toss thing is not trolling, it is a standard gimmick I use often. I see so many try hard counters at tables that make it so obvious with their serious demeanor. I am courteous and polite and friendly to dealers and other players. My dislike about hilo is from my own experience of it failing to provide results that meet my goals. My switch from hilo to my improved version of ubz2 with 1/4 resolution and then switch again to hiopt2 w/A saw very noticeable and immediate improvements in my daily and hourly P/L charts.

    long live blackjack!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hypercube View Post
    nope i dont split 8s v 9,10,A, because my sim results optimizing score and RA betting for the system i play tell me it reduces $$/hr if it do it in high counts. I get that its technically borderline better in low counts, not doing it gives up nothing and reduces session variance and you can simply take that $$ where you were going to split the 88s v 9,10,a and wait and place an extra bet in a better double down or split situation v a weaker dealer card, so not splitting the 8s become huge +ev that way

    Hypercube, there is so much wrong with the above quote that if this is how you think I will kindly ignore you. You can not play that way "wait and place an extra bet in a better double down or split situation v a weaker dealer card" by picking and choosing your own basic strategy, and rightfully say "so not splitting the 8s become huge +ev that way" that is simply not true. Using risk averse indexes is a good thing, and I recommend players use them, but you are taking this to a whole new level.


    " Originally Posted by hypercubeOriginally Posted by NB10
    Wanted to get the thoughts of more experienced players, what are the most effective cover plays for lessening heat whilst minimising the amount of EV sacrificed?"

    Hypercube responded with:

    "if I have max bet out and i want to split 10s v 4,5,6 i take out my double sided tail coin out and say heads i stand tails I split!! if its a low count i use my double sided head coin!"

    Go ahead and use your two sided coin flip, and go get that extra EV for that play. What about beyond that one play? Oh yes, in your world no one saw a thing, great idea, that is completely ridiculous.
    Last edited by BoSox; 08-13-2017 at 07:41 AM.

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