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Thread: Is my math wrong? Best rules in the world and I still lost (over 3 months) ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwocky View Post
    Which are safer? Trojan or Ramses?
    Check out YouTube. Do a search for the Trojan Games. My favourite is somethinng like the snatch and jerk. Think I'll do a check on Ramses games.

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    The house always wins

    Quote Originally Posted by gringostar View Post
    Hello,

    I'm in Cairo Egypt. Here they have the most generous blackjack rules I have ever seen.

    The good:

    1. Early surrender
    2. Double after splits
    3. Resplitting of Aces
    4. Dealer stays on soft 17
    5. Double any two cards
    6. Blackjack pays 3:2
    7. Dealer deals 80% of the shoe.

    The bad

    1. European rules (no hole card)
    2. No peak blackjack (The dealer doesn't peak for blackjack and therefor you will lose an entire double)
    3. 6 Deck shoe

    I did the math using Wizard of Odds and came up with a positive expectation of +1.3%. I've been playing for 3 months using perfect basic strategy a la European rules, everyday for 2 hours a day. I've averaged about 100 hands per hour and I always bet minimum $5 USD. But, after three months I lost $450. In fact, I've lost consistently 9/10 days.

    Again, please help me. Is my math wrong? Why am I consistenly losing? Remember I've played over 135 hours and have bet over $67,500.

    I'm not using a counting system. I'm only using perfect basic strategy.

    Thank you!


    Quote Originally Posted by gringostar View Post

    the house always wins ...they dont want you to take there money. they are cheating you. stick with slots


    [QUOTE=gringostar;227581]Sorry go to better casino try Vegas or Atlantic city.

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    in canada i once play 2 and one half shoe 6 decks 80 percent of shoes. the dealer never won. her name was Linda and that was 20 yrs ago. i never busted then the dealer draws a black jack after 45 mins of busting. 2.5 shoes

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    My card count speed was 45 seconds for 2 decks (no performance enhancing drugs)

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    r u sure that u surrender even if the dealers has an ace ?

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    For what it's worth...
    I played Egypt (Cairo, Sharm el Sheikh) some 10 years ago and never experienced any cheating by casinos. Plenty of heat and barring but never cheating. Your bets total 18,000...not nearly enough to draw any conclusions from. Maybe your Basic Strategy is not perfect...it wouldn't take much to wipe out any "off the top" advantage.

    Chucky baby

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    Here is the correct house advantage (according to Theory of Blackjack by Griffin...

    6 deck
    -0.54
    no hole
    -0.11
    respl aces
    0.04
    das
    0.14
    esr aceten
    0.63
    advantage


    0.16


    Maybe 18,000 bets is insufficient to provide a guide!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gringostar View Post
    I'm getting 100 hands per hour.
    The same story only everything happened faster

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    Quote Originally Posted by gringostar View Post
    Yes. Im following BS to a T for the given rules. Ex. I never double with dealer's Ace or Ten. Interestingly with those rules I'm doubling about 5% of the time as opposed to say 20%. It's hard to win given I'm doubling so little.
    Okay first of all that sounds wrong. I also play flawless BS and even implement the Mag7 hands which increases my odds by another 0.03% overall but if you have 11, you should be doubling against 10 in a S17 game!!! Why aren't you doing that? I do know that in a S17 game you don't double when they show Ace, but 10 you should!!

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    Because It is a European No Hole Card Game that's why you should not. Unless in case of high count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BughouseMASTER View Post
    Okay first of all that sounds wrong. I also play flawless BS and even implement the Mag7 hands which increases my odds by another 0.03% overall but if you have 11, you should be doubling against 10 in a S17 game!!! Why aren't you doing that? I do know that in a S17 game you don't double when they show Ace, but 10 you should!!
    Whether they stand or hit on soft 17 is irrelevant if the dealer has a ten so s17 doesn’t matter. You might be right but just sayin

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    A player advantage of a meaningless 0.18% is not enough to expect a profit over 3 months of play not even close, im too lazy to calc it for you but it probably way over a year to get over a 1SD of expectation of profit, You should immediately start some type of count, hilo at the bare minimum!

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