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    Three is completely correct.

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    The B.C., I.C., and P. E. of REKO are the proof in the pudding.

    REKO is a fine recreational 'low-roller' count.

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    Three ~ answer your phone.

    Call me A S A P

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    I won more than "a dollar" by using REKO. (Thanks Norm!!!) It is very effective card counting system. (profitable) Apply an "all approach" strategy on your own (maximum one player at the table excluding you). Be nice to the dealer, remember of those names whom can give you deep penetrations and come back again on their shift. I always have one beer (So-called Victory Beer) when i am ahead but always at the end of my session. (sometimes i pour it into the sink or toilet-what a waste i know).
    To be honest it is much better playing heads up than playing along with others. Not only because receive you more hands but because you create the atmosphere (positive) between the dealer and you. I really enjoy it.
    Relaxed , calm and peaceful game I always strive for.
    But HI OPT 2 is HI OPT 2...Cannot argue with that.. (I have been testing it in the past few weeks)

    All the best

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    It is not just that Hi-Opt II performs (significantly) better;
    it also has the best win rate, N0, R.O.R., C.E. etc. etc.
    If you want to argue with the mathematics then I will call
    you Don Quixote, tilting against casinos, not windmills!

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    Mr.Zen! Can you apply HI OPT II against 6 or 8 deckers as well? Is it not difficult to side count aces against multidecks?

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    1000 to 1 spread! Gees, that's a big spread.

    I didn't know that you needed a 1000 to 1 spread for REKO, KO, or HILO to work.

    From the sims I've looked at, REKO and HILO perform at 80% to 90% of the more complex counts.

    But to achieve this, I thought the spreads were much smaller, like 1 to 16 or 20, not 1 to 1000!

    I guess my CVCX and Blackjack Attack books must be all wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferenc11 View Post
    "Mr.Zen! Can you apply HI OPT II against 6 or 8 deckers as well?
    Is it not difficult to side count aces against
    multidecks?"

    Of course, you Side Count Aces under any and all circumstances.
    Side-Counting Aces is absurdly easy, even with X decks. L O L

    Playing BJ without being aware of the density of Aces and applying
    that knowledge to bet-sizing, and the playing of some hands,
    especially doubles splits and Insurance, is just plain dumb and lazy.

    Being a full-time Pro Player for >25
    yrs. has taught me a lot. I would
    have failed miserably, and be forced to work for a living if I did not Side
    Count. I am highly allergic to work.

    Take a couple of decks of cards and practice. Just add letters to your
    running count, e.g. +4 B means the R.C. is +4 and TWO Aces have
    been viewed. -4 H means the R.C. is -4 and 8 Aces have been played.
    No need to go to letter L That is the 12th letter of the alphabet. So ...
    that is the norm for 3 decks. If you start over at that point and you reach,
    let us say, C then you have seen 15 Aces. If the Aces are in (a large) deficit
    you are thinking of Wonging Out. For betting purposes ~ for each DEFICIT
    Ace You subtract the value you use for your Face Cards (running count) so
    let us say that you have reached a Running Count of +4 at the 3 decks point
    in a 6 deck shoe. Using Hi-Opt II the True Count is 4/3 = +1 but after 3 decks
    you have seen 16 Aces. Normal is 3 X 4 =12 so you have a deficit of 4 Aces.
    In Hi-Opt II we will deduct 12 from +4 to get an R.C. of -8 The ADJUSTED True
    Count is now -8/3 = -2 If it is early in the shoe you may choose to Wong Out.
    You decide to stay. On the next shoe, you are dealt two hands. You have an 11
    and a 10 while the dealer displays a 9. The True Count is this time +1 but you
    have the same Ace Deficit that you had before. You know what your index is for
    doubling these hands. Now you need to Subtract 3 for each missing Ace to play
    the 9 and 4 for each Ace to play the 11. That means your R.C. is downgraded by
    4 X 3 and 4 X 4. NOT doubling these two hands will save you a ton of money.
    You double and maybe you win one and push or you lose both. Later on you get
    9-9 against the dealer 7. The True Count is ZERO, but you have Surplus Aces and
    you KNOW that each Ace is worth an amazing 6 R.C. points with Hi-Opt 2 and you
    are looking for hands to play weirdly BUT correctly to convince the Pit that you are
    a dummy. How about 9-9 vs. dealer ACE? Here each Ace is worth 5 R.C. points and
    will have the Pit Critter shaking his head when you split your 9's vs. that scary Ace !



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    Hahahahaha! I love the last sentence of yours.

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    "I am highly allergic to work..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferenc11 View Post
    Hahahahaha! I love the last sentence of yours.

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    I love work. I can look and watch people do it for hours. For myself? I have a gruelling 5-6 hour work week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post

    Aces is absurdly easy, even with X decks. L O L


    ...let us say that you have reached a Running Count of +4 at the 3 decks point
    in a 6 deck shoe. Using Hi-Opt II the True Count is 4/3 = +1 but after 3 decks
    you have seen 16 Aces. Normal is 3 X 4 =12 so you have a deficit of 4 Aces.
    In Hi-Opt II we will deduct 12 from +4 to get an R.C. of -8 The ADJUSTED True
    Count is now -8/3 = -2

    I'm confused, you deduct triple the ace deficit (4 X 3 = 12) to the RC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Mama View Post
    "I'm confused, you deduct triple the ace deficit (4 X 3 = 12) to the RC?"

    The EXPECTED no. of ACES in
    T H R E E decks is F O U R per deck
    3 X 4 = 12 (normal expectation) after
    seeing THREE decks.

    You have seen 16 Aces, so ...
    That is a DEFICIT of:
    16-12 = 4 then ...
    FOUR Aces are "worth" 8 RC points.

    Deducted from the regular unadjusted RC
    of +4 gives us an adjusted R.C. (for betting)
    of (+4) + (-4) = ZERO


    Sorry about my typo of -2 as I was treating it as a POSITIVE TC which
    when correctly floored would be +2 Negative Fractional Counts move
    down, not up.

    Please excuse my errors and typos. I have been up for 28 hrs.
    I often let my partners talk me into marathon multi-state sorties.
    I am too old for this. Good Night. Zzzz Zzzz

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