New To BlackJack Betting with Basic Alone

[bsngraduate32]

Sorry if I'd posted this general post somewhere else. Im new to this app so I thought I was posting to this area so whomever gets that big msg forgive me for the redundancy.
All in all I'm great at Basic strategy but am not at all great at counting fast strategies (even if I whip through piano arpeggios).

Point is: Instead of betting one by one and ultimately losing are there other betting safe and or lucrative betting ideas available? I know it's a game of risk but I simply would welcome advice nonetheless. I've read on numerous sites and of course the house has the edge even when it's minimal. But I've got to find a middle ground between betting the farm at $100 a pop and $5 per turn and slowly getting vampired to death. I somewhat can pay attention to the table and say okay well that hand probably looks like a lot of Hi but don't think you'd rly wanna guess on true count. Ultimately here in this great state I've never really seen a one card deck and of course dealer hits on soft 17. But even at my awesome play with basic I simply (until well just tonight realized what i was doing) cannot see any logic in betting and ultimately not able to endure the 25 a dealer win streak with me way under every double and vice versa. Therefore I end up betting too well yet I've found for general betting that don't want to sell you something. I've only heard of rudimentary ideas such as of bet progression but that it seems I end up doubling the speed of demise. Once again apologies to moderators if I'd posted this elsewhere. I don't have expectations to go in and win the money I've lost. I'm not gonna kid myself. But I do enjoy the game otherwise and perhaps I can get good to actually come out ahead at least for one night. Yes it's myself it's my betting big. But doesn't matter when you bid up down one unit two when you have zero direction. Just like to chat with people with an personesque environment like this. I'll read the forums of course as much as I can but a point to a link and or a word of advice above the billions of Borg.. I'd be very much grateful. Happy to be here
I'm going to keep practicing HiLo or KO but those dealers are also robots and are so fast. It's different from a trainer and actual table. No offense to any dealers. . Lol mine are actually really great ppl.

Ben

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[Norm]

If you are not counting, then you have no information to use in betting. So, flat-bet the minimum.

[Meistro123]

With all due respect to Norm here I think the real answer is not to bet. The only way to expect to make money at gambling in the long run is to make positive expectation bets. If you know the casino has the edge then you should simply refuse to play.

No betting strategy will help you make money if you are playing a losing game.

Counting cards is really not that complicated. It takes about 70 to 100 hours of practice to become proficient. First you need to memorize basic strategy, then you have to learn how to count, then you study 20 or so deviations from basic strategy based on the count, then you learn deck estimation,converting to the true count and betting based on the true count, then you practice until you have the whole thing down seamlessly and can play through multiple shoes with no betting or playing errors. Really no part of this process is very complicated, it just takes a bit of time and effort.

I'm going to keep practicing HiLo or KO but those dealers are also robots and are so fast.

That is not a concern. You control the speed of the game. If you are struggling to count a round, simply refuse to act on your hand until you have the count. But you shouldn't be playing until you have practiced so much that keeping up with an extremely fast dealer is no problem anyway.

[bsngraduate32]

Succinct and very much informative. It seems tricky as anything does but I've mastered the piano. That's counting. Lol. But you're right. There is no sense in losing. Because no matter what they're calculating you as a loss per hour the longer you play and so it makes sense fully now with your post. Thank you both for your replies.

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[bsngraduate32]

Succinct and very much informative. It seems tricky as anything does but I've mastered the piano. That's counting. Lol. But you're right. There is no sense in losing. Because no matter what they're calculating you as a loss per hour the longer you play and so it makes sense fully now with your post. Thank you both for your replies.

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I mean if playing and not counting they'd count you as loss per hour player lol

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[stopgambling]

read the free book and buy a few good books before anything ,then practice , then put together a proper bankroll or have a session roll that you can keep generating even if you lose the money....... more to that. despite what some people say it is not as easy as counting plus 1, and minus 1 .

[stopgambling]

you may go tilt , may get back off very quickily, may not be able to find good condition( crowded) , may need a minimum of 50 k to 100k to start cause the games sucks locally , may have error under stress , too many counters in your area ( also meaning crowded) etc... not having a good understanding of variance causing you to go broke or just not winning( breaking even for hundreds or thousands of hours)

[SpikeBJ]

I mean if playing and not counting they'd count you as loss per hour player lol

If I told you how I played after learning BS, and before I moved to hi-lo (several years), this thread would turn yellow and move to the voodoo/disadvantaged player forum. Suffice to say, either my brain was keeping track of things subconsciously (doubtful) or I was in a long period of variance in my favor. Math talks...

[bsngraduate32]

Yes thank you for that info. Has anyone not to change drastically ever utilized the system by the Al Kaufman "The Professor"? I haven't fully watched his video I was just going to check it out. Seems a different basic strategy altogether.

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[bsngraduate32]

And you're right it really isn't just as easy as counting like that. There's a lot to think about. I think i am capable with practice which I will definitely be doing. Well learning and practicing altogether. But either way. I want to do it to win and for fun.

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[Norm]

Yes thank you for that info. Has anyone not to change drastically ever utilized the system by the Al Kaufman "The Professor"? I haven't fully watched his video I was just going to check it out. Seems a different basic strategy altogether.

Total fraud.

[bsngraduate32]

If I told you how I played after learning BS, and before I moved to hi-lo (several years), this thread would turn yellow and move to the voodoo/disadvantaged player forum. Suffice to say, either my brain was keeping track of things subconsciously (doubtful) or I was in a long period of variance in my favor. Math talks...

Interesting. It is math though. And now I have to go lookup variance as a concept but thanks for that. I mean some of the most succesd utilize the hi lo system alone. And by what you're saying I'm assuming you mean using the Hi Lo system as it is plus or minus 1 dividing by number of decks for the true count and betting that way? So if you're at a positive value say after the first round and maybe half a deck. Would say an average of 3 or above be when you start betting much higher as the decks thin out? Ie you have say positive 3 at end round 1 but still 5 decks. Doubt you'd want to bet the farm yet? lol..I'm reading about this as we speak again I just like to know how different people do it or is it pretty much a standard. I know I sound very naive and without variances and warp theory but ultimately it's still just basic numbers.

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[bsngraduate32]

Total fraud.

LOL thanks yes looked a bit sketchy

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