question about i18

[Stealth]

Hi professionals, i just wonder if you follow the i18 100% of time, there some indexs "Below"are rarely use by average players. Would you be detected as card counter if you use these all the time. If i dont follow below index, how much edge i lose over all?

10.10 vs 5
10.10 vs 6
12 vs 5
12 vs 6
13 vs 13



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Generally, a straight answer would be preferable but since this requires several answers I would refer you to page 62 of BJA III for a complete chart of the Ill18/Fab4 in order by their importance and with all supporting details.

As for the cover issues, I suggest "it depends" becomes the right answer. If I have TC 6 with Q,Q versus 6 and, as expected, a big bet out, and it is the last hand in a shoe and I am leaving upon the shoe completion and their is no pit person hawking the play then I likely will split to get the EV. This partially depends on the environment I have played in so far, little heat, split and go, lot's of heat then do not split for risk averse reasons (I don't mean bankroll) to protect longevity of store.

[Jabberwocky]

No bosox, im still working on don's book chapter 10, there are alot theory for a newb like me, so i try to digest slowly. I ask this question bc i was in casino yesterday, and i got 33vs7 at tc+5, then i splited and busted both hands.



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"Alles Theorie ist Grau, mein teurer Freund." - Mephisto

[abc4000]

Forget about the index for splitting 3,3v8 as the correlation to the play is so poor for Hilo and related counts there is nothing there in the way of EV worth doubling your money at risk for:

https://www.card-counting.com/cvcxonlineviewer3.htm

2,2v8 has a little more but it is also an anemic play. Look at the EV difference scale for the play. 2,2v8 is almost entirely driven by the density of 8 and 9 which go uncounted by almost everyone.You need to account for the 8 and 9 for this play to be a strong play.

3,3v8 is one you shouldn't want to learn. It mostly just increases variance with little EV gain. This would probably result in a decrease in SCORE but the plays are so rare the effect on stats will be diluted to the point that they probably disappear unless you go to ridiculous number of significant digits.

There are far better indices to learn than these two.

Thx for the great link three


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[Barney112]

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[BJGenius007]

Hi professionals, i just wonder if you follow the i18 100% of time, there some indexs "Below"are rarely use by average players. Would you be detected as card counter if you use these all the time. If i dont follow below index, how much edge i lose over all?

10.10 vs 5
10.10 vs 6
12 vs 5
12 vs 6
13 vs 13



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People who don't split pair of face cards have missed the great opportunity of Blackjack, especially true count exceeds the threshold by a large margin. The threshold of split 10, 10 against 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 are 5, 5, 6, 8, 10. These are all in max bet category. You are going to leave at the end of the shoe anyway after showing your max bet. You might sell it. Saying, "I am going home no matter what. Let's make it a double Jeopardy." Especially when the true count is more than 3 higher than the threshold, it is likely that you split to multiple hands. All on max bets.

And 12 v 5, 12 v 6, 13 v 2 is not important because when you have good size bet, your index play is the same as basic strategy. Index play on these only matters when you have minimal bet. Well you can afford losing these minimal bets if you have all max bets right.

[Stealth]

Hi professionals, i just wonder if you follow the i18 100% of time, there some indexs "Below"are rarely use by average players. Would you be detected as card counter if you use these all the time. If i dont follow below index, how much edge i lose over all?

10.10 vs 5
10.10 vs 6
12 vs 5
12 vs 6
13 vs 13



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Follow all but splitting tens (and will do that in special circumstances). Actually some of them make you look like an idiot (12 V 5 for instance) but will get noise from the ploppies. Develop means to tolerate it and move on.

Actually was in casino this week that would not allow splitting of tens!! Interesting rules.