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    question about i18

    Hi professionals, i just wonder if you follow the i18 100% of time, there some indexs "Below"are rarely use by average players. Would you be detected as card counter if you use these all the time. If i dont follow below index, how much edge i lose over all?

    10.10 vs 5
    10.10 vs 6
    12 vs 5
    12 vs 6
    13 vs 13



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    There's a saying:

    "Only idiots and card counters split 10s".

    Splitting 10s is purely an EV generating play, and a red flag for the pit. They'll be able to tell from your previous play that you are no idiotic ploppy. Standing on 16 v 10 is also another marker.

    The others you list aren't so obvious and can just look like incorrect BS plays.

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    Don't use any cover plays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meistro123 View Post
    Don't use any cover plays.
    Unless you are a patent black chipper.

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    I never split 10s - just draws too much attention.
    I generally try to avoid hitting 12 v. 5 or 6 in a face-up game when there are others at the table, again because it causes too much commotion.
    I have no problem hitting 13 v. 2 or 3 in accordance with the index.

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    Thanks guys, also do you split 22 vs 7 and 33 vs 7 at count of +3 and above?

    I also have a index of split 77 vs 8 at tc5, Should i use this?


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    Quote Originally Posted by abc4000 View Post
    Hi professionals, i just wonder if you follow the i18 100% of time
    As a veteran Professional Player, I use far far far more than 18.
    About 3 to 4 times as many, depending on the table conditions.


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    "Thanks guys, also do you split 22 vs 7 and 33 vs 7 at count of +3 and above?"

    You don't mean this. Splitting 2s and 3s vs. 7 is BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    "Thanks guys, also do you split 22 vs 7 and 33 vs 7 at count of +3 and above?"

    You don't mean this. Splitting 2s and 3s vs. 7 is BS.

    Don
    Thanks don, so we do follow this no matter how high the count goes right


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    Quote Originally Posted by DSchles View Post
    "do you split 22 vs 7 and 33 vs 7 at count of +3 and above?"

    You don't mean this. Splitting 2s and 3s vs. 7 is BS.
    He means a dealer eight (8) I can only assume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    He means a dealer eight (8) I can only assume.
    I know there is a index for split 2s 3s vs 8 at +5 and +4. Also 7s vs 8 at +5, i already drop that, too much for a newb

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    abc4000, I hope you are not going to just glance over the all important basic strategy charts now, are you ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    abc4000, I hope you are not going to just glance over the all important basic strategy charts now, are you ?
    No bosox, im still working on don's book chapter 10, there are alot theory for a newb like me, so i try to digest slowly. I ask this question bc i was in casino yesterday, and i got 33vs7 at tc+5, then i splited and busted both hands.



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