How do casinos track your winnings?

[TheCount]

I've been beating one casino pretty regularly and I'm wondering how the y can track me? I play low limit games, $5-1000 betting. They take my players card when I sit down, I cash in fir $100-$200 and walk out up 50 to 90% richer. But I'm wondering how does the casino track that?

When I cash in for $100 and cash out at $180, the dealer calls it out and no out bosses come over usually. Today I bought in fir $200 and cashed out for $350 after about 40 minutes of work. A pit boss came over and watched the dealer count my chips then walked away before I did.

I haven't seen any if the bosses go the machine and type in my winnings. Am I just too low limit to track? Or is there a way the casinos know exactly how much I win every single time I get up to leave?

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[Banker]

They track the chip rack. They keep counts of the chips in the rack. When they have time, they go back to the dealer and ask, how much did that guy walk with and reconcile that with the chip rack. Accuracy is good in HL room but not that good on main floors. It goes both ways; in your favor or against you.

[TheCount]

That is why it is good to keep on top of things and make sure errors don't hurt you.

So will being a low limit guy extend my life at this casino or does it not matter?

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[ferenc11]

How long are your sessions?

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[TheCount]

How long are your sessions?

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My max is 60 minutes.

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[TheCount]

They will probably wait until you play for higher stakes or win more aggressively to take action against you.

So if I keep doing what I'm doing, you think they will just let me be? I was thinking about hitting 3 or 4 casinos a day on my days off of work. If I pull the same result, that would be a really nice supplemental income for me.

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[Banker]

If I pull the same result, that would be a really nice supplemental income for me.

You can pull the same "expected value" but not the same results. I do not mean to be lecturing but was not sure from your statement what you meant by the same results. You will win some and lose some but if you play with an advantage, you will win more over the long run. Because of such variability, it is hard to rely on BJ as supplemental income the way you would think about other ways of supplementing income like overtime or a second job. Successful players keep a separate bankroll for casino play.

So will being a low limit guy extend my life at this casino or does it not matter?[/COLOR]

Probably but not necessarily. A more accurate answer would be that being a high limit guy will shorten your life span at the casino

[Bushie]

What I like to do is buy in for an amount that is reasonably small (about $200) that I can easily scoop up and take with me if/when I wong out at -2.

If I win a sizeable amount then I exchange it and "rathole" it away in my pockets. Do not make a fuss about it.

If I lose big then I damn well make sure that half the pit hears about exactly how much I lost. Not in an obnoxious way, just like "damn I'm down $500 already today, terrible luck".

Sometimes dealers notice when I'm up and they'll ask how much by. I just nonchalantly reply with "yeah I'm up a little bit" and leave it at that.

[ZeeBabar]

It really varies by casino. For example, at the Hollywood in St. Louis, dealers log your card in and put the amount in (a small monitor is on the table by the side of the dealer). At others, a guy at the pit will log in the amounts when the dealer gives you chips and calls out the amounts when you sit down or color up. They do it by seat position or spot position sometimes. At the GS in Tunica, the pit guys will copy your players card number and amount of first bet on a slip, hand it over to a girl in the pit who is on the computer.

I play rated and I play higher stakes than you ($25-$150) and I am still playing. I think they go by life time earnings (unless you are up over $1k in which case, they may call the sky for evaluation) and they are not very accurate. Ratholing and walking away quickly from table, walking over to pit and asking for a comp because you lost, etc., helps. However, don't rathole and then cash the ratholed amount with the colored up amount at the cashier. If they suspect, they call and check how much you cashed in so be consistent.

[Stealth]

So if I keep doing what I'm doing, you think they will just let me be? I was thinking about hitting 3 or 4 casinos a day on my days off of work. If I pull the same result, that would be a really nice supplemental income for me.

Aside from how THEY are tracking your winnings, you should be sure that you understand the bad variance (losses) that will eventually follow the wins you are experiencing. Predicting a win of a few sessions over a short period (month?) is impossible. Predicting you are going to win any session is nuts.

What you now perceive as that "really nice supplemental income" can become that pain in the ass expense.

[Bigdaddy]

Aside from how THEY are tracking your winnings, you should be sure that you understand the bad variance (losses) that will eventually follow the wins you are experiencing. Predicting a win of a few sessions over a short period (month?) is impossible. Predicting you are going to win any session is nuts.

What you now perceive as that "really nice supplemental income" can become that pain in the ass expense.

Agree - I'm amazed that it took to post #14 to point out the elephant in the room. Question for "TheCount" - How long have you been playing blackjack?