Opinion on "even money" and max bet BJ.

[BoSox]

" My understanding is there are several different ways to figure TC. But only one way for percentages. If 20 A-10s are played and 25 2-6s then the percentages of A-10s to 2-6s that still remain are 57.14% to 42.86%. If 25 and 30, then the ratio is 60%-40%. Assuming heat can handle, I would go 3 on two spots at 57%. Hooray, if I get two snappers. But if small cards come out, I would be 6 on two hands at 60% and up. Volume low. Quality High. Win Today. Play tomorrow."

Going 3 is safe on a still volatile bet. If you lose and smalls come out, it appears as though you are chasing.

The eye still noticed you doubled your bet.

If you win and smalls come out, it would appear as letting it ride.

Wouldn't it give the eye a reason to pause, and further observe a player who periodically lets it ride? When are the two, four, and five unit bets made?

[Bubbles]

1:3 on DD being too much. Wow. I usually do more. I wonder how long I'd last. Moses, do you have a throwaway email you wouldn't mind sharing?

[Bubbles]

Fenix. 1.3 would be my setup bet. Followed by 1.6. Flasheroo has my email. He is welcome to give it to you.

OK ^.^ Email to him sent.

[BoSox]

Fenix. 1.3 would be my setup bet. Followed by 1.6. Flasheroo has my email. He is welcome to give it to you.

In post 113 you wrote:

"My understanding is there are several different ways to figure TC. But only one way for percentages. If 20 A-10s are played and 25 2-6s then the percentages of A-10s to 2-6s that still remain are 57.14% to 42.86%. If 25 and 30, then the ratio is 60%-40%. Assuming heat can handle, I would go 3 on two spots at 57%. Hooray, if I get two snappers. But if small cards come out, I would be 6 on two hands at 60% and up. Volume low. Quality High. Win Today. Play tomorrow."


In post 119 you wrote:

"I was giving you an example. Go to CV Data. See True Count percentages. "


All due respect Moses, please go back and read your above example on how you would handle your spread. You said you would be at 3 units at 57%, and at 6 units at 60%. One can only conclude you have no room for that 4 or 5 unit bet. Perhaps you just gave a poor example, or you should be raising your bet sooner in that 57% situation. Sorry it just seems impossible to understand.

[ZeeBabar]

After that post, I listed info in CV Data. Now, "if" I were inclined to fly to Mississippi, that is what I might do. Setting a 4 and 5 would add to the complexity IMO. It depends on how hard of a shot I think the pit can take. Hence, it's difficult to gain EV if you're not allowed to play.

The data on CV Data allows you to create a simple or as complex betting strategy as you desire.

No. I wouldn't be playing a game that dictates starting with one hand or two and then not being able to switch during the course of that deck. But if I could, I'd might go 1 hand of at tc+4. 2 hands of 3 at TC 5+ and 2hands of 6 at tc+6. My laungauge would be different. Point is, no chips are added after a win. Only moved.

Since Zee is bound and determined to play with HiLo. Assuning Sim results are relatively the same, maybe go 2 hands of 2 at TC4+. 2 of 4 at TC5t. 2 of 6 at or above tc6. Key is to do some research so that you always insure your max bet.

The frequency, the amount, and the spread "they" can endure must be determined. It's not a game of do as you please. People seem to forget the opponent can quit without even needing a justified reason.

Moses, I do have CV data (which I never used) and CVCX (which I use to determine optimum bets). My biggest failing is underbetting at the lower positive counts. For instance, my minimum bet is $25, optimum betting calls for $100 at TC+2 but I often bet $75 r even $50 (if it's early in the shoe). These are more my frugal personality issues. The more I am aware, the more I have begun betting optimally, the more I am having success. For too long, I had to be cheap in real life, struggling for survival. It's a long story but having come from a poor family, from having been thrown into the USA, different culture, no money, menial jobs at age 18, frugal habits kept me safe. Now, my challenge has been overcoming those. Another is learning to say "no", playing unrated and being comfortable.

[BoSox]

The frequency, the amount, and the spread "they" can endure must be determined. It's not a game of do as you please. People seem to forget the opponent can quit without even needing a justified reason.

I really like the above quote. Moses, my apologies to you, I really should not be opining on both single and double deck games that I have not played in years.

[BigJer]

Moses, can you accept PMs?

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Or do you just have me on ignore. J/K.

[BigJer]

No. And of course not. Last time I saw you were sitting at a shoe with a 16vs10. You couldnt decide whether to take Flash's advice and stand or go with basic strategy and hit. Are you still there holding up the game? lol. My phone went kablooey and I lost all my numbers. Friends tell me they see you lurking around the sportsbook from time to time.

Great acting on my part! Even fooled the pros! HA! Sorry about the phone. BTW, they're darn near giving away phones and tablets right now. (That's what happened to my consulting business. The Great Recession hit and the price of everything went down.)

I could've sat in a sportsbook for a while, but as of yet never placed a bet. Your spies are wrong!

Hearing "Surrender" takes on a different meaning here. It generally means someone just robbed a jewelry store and a shootout is about to happen.

Nyah!! Nyah!!

[BoSox]

After that post, I listed info in CV Data. Now, "if" I were inclined to fly to Mississippi, that is what I might do. Setting a 4 and 5 would add to the complexity IMO. It depends on how hard of a shot I think the pit can take. Hence, it's difficult to gain EV if you're not allowed to play.

The data on CV Data allows you to create a simple or as complex betting strategy as you desire.

No. I wouldn't be playing a game that dictates starting with one hand or two and then not being able to switch during the course of that deck. But if I could, I'd might go 1 hand of at tc+4. 2 hands of 3 at TC 5+ and 2hands of 6 at tc+6. My laungauge would be different. Point is, no chips are added after a win. Only moved.

Moses, just to close a few loose ends, sorry I feel like the late Peter Falk in the Columbo series. If you did take a trip to Mississippi where you might incorporate a four and five unit spread into your game and also using " to quote: My laungauge would be different. Point is, no chips are added after a win. Only moved." what seems like a much safer approach from the eyes perspective, isn't this in direct contradiction to your current play in the Reno area? Where you do jump from three units on two hands, to six units on two hands without qualms, even if you lost the previous hand, "stating it gives the appearance of chasing," while using your 1/3/6 spread.

Since Zee is bound and determined to play with HiLo. Assuning Sim results are relatively the same, maybe go 2 hands of 2 at TC4+. 2 of 4 at TC5t. 2 of 6 at or above tc6. Key is to do some research so that you always insure your max bet.

ZeeBabar, you are now doing just fine, be careful who you ask for help, they might screw you up mentally.

[Joe Mama]

If I flew all the way to an M state to play blackjack and get flat bet the first day? I hope there is a lake with good fishing. If I went to Vegas and had 3 thugs surround me and push my chips forward? I'd soon be on the phone with my attorney. Yes Frank, that's what I did. Now what do I do?

When they backroom you in an M state, Bubba might think your Yankee accent is kinda cute. Can you squeal like a pig?

[BoSox]

My biggest failing is underbetting at the lower positive counts. For instance, my minimum bet is $25, optimum betting calls for $100 at TC+2 but I often bet $75 r even $50 (if it's early in the shoe). These are more my frugal personality issues. The more I am aware, the more I have begun betting optimally, the more I am having success.

ZeeBabar, I think your $100 optimum bet number at a TC +2 is off by 20 to 24 % depending on the cut. I believe the bet should be $76 or $77 at 70/104 cards cut into play , and $80 at 78/ 104 cards cut into play. Numbers were taken from BJ Attack 3rd Edition on page 263 H17 DAS.

[DSchles]

What do you mean by 57%, 60%, etc.?

Don

[Freightman]

TC. Zee really should work out his strategy on CV Data.

That will be the day. Better chances if a good rub and tug story