newb want an advice on betting flow

[refinery]

Stealth,

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Pot meet kettle.

[BoSox]

In the sense that your bet ramp is not optimal. Or in other words, it is not proportional to the advantage for the players.

BJGenius007, it is very obvious that the op is lacking skills in many areas, comparable to any beginner, it would be nice if you told the man the truth instead of only implying he just has a bet ramp problem.

[BJGenius007]

BJGenius007, it is very obvious that the op is lacking skills in many areas, comparable to any beginner, it would be nice if you told the man the truth instead of only implying he just has a bet ramp problem.

Well, just fix one problem at a time, then he will get there.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

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[abc4000]

Well, just fix one problem at a time, then he will get there.

So what should i fix


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[BoSox]

Midwest Player's 2nd quote was:


"Also the level of a count is determined by its tag values, but not just the value assigned to tens and aces, but the value assigned to all its tags. Halves counts the 5 as a tag of 1.5"

The second quote, above, makes no sense at all.

ZMF, when you are dealing with beginners you cannot make assumptions. I think Midwest Player's quote was more than appropriate considering the title and the lack of experience of the op who started the thread.

[Midwest Player]

Leaving NO uninformed amateur behind...

The Level of a Count is delineated by the tag value

assigned (specifically) to the Face Cards and Tens.

Let me be more clear if my previous statement made no sense. Flash, you are just plain wrong when you say the level of a count is delineated by the tag value assigned (specifically) to the face cards and tens.

The level of a count is determined by the number of different tag values the count has except zero and without regard to the sign of the values (think absolute value).

Your definition might work for some counts, but it doesn't work for halves and other counts that value the ace higher than the 10. You have to look at all the tag values to determine the count level.

[BJGenius007]

So what should i fix


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Like any skill, you cannot master it overnight. Back to your quest for bet ramp, there are no exact numbers to fit all. The numbers depends on the rules (most important rule, S17 or H17), your counting system, your index play and your error rate. Most numbers presented to you here or circulated on Internet are numbers for experienced AP who have mastered BJ and can find the best rules for players. These numbers may not apply to you as you are still learning.

Generally speaking, for S17 6D game using Hi-Lo, you bet $40, $80, $120, $160 and $200 at TC +1, +2, +3, +4, +5. Bet $10 if TC is zero or negative, or better, Wong-Out. The above is for aggressive players spreading 20 to 1. For beginners, the bet ramp could be $20, $40, $60, $80 and $100 at TC +1, +2, +3, +4, +5. This reduces your winning rate from 0.9%/1.2% to about 0.3%. If you just want to practice and play an even game, you can bet $20, $30, $40, $50 and $60 at TC +1, +2, +3, +4 and +5.

Note that these TC numbers are truncated. For example, +2.7 is truncated to +2. Also you don't have to practice in casino. There are software for you to practice at home. And read a book about Blackjack. It helps you to see the forest, not just few tress by asking a question or two.

[abc4000]

Like any skill, you cannot master it overnight. Back to your quest for bet ramp, there are no exact numbers to fit all. The numbers depends on the rules (most important rule, S17 or H17), your counting system, your index play and your error rate. Most numbers presented to you here or circulated on Internet are numbers for experienced AP who have mastered BJ and can find the best rules for players. These numbers may not apply to you as you are still learning.

Generally speaking, for S17 6D game using Hi-Lo, you bet $40, $80, $120, $160 and $200 at TC +1, +2, +3, +4, +5. Bet $10 if TC is zero or negative, or better, Wong-Out. The above is for aggressive players spreading 20 to 1. For beginners, the bet ramp could be $20, $40, $60, $80 and $100 at TC +1, +2, +3, +4, +5. This reduces your winning rate from 0.9%/1.2% to about 0.3%. If you just want to practice and play an even game, you can bet $20, $30, $40, $50 and $60 at TC +1, +2, +3, +4 and +5.

Note that these TC numbers are truncated. For example, +2.7 is truncated to +2. Also you don't have to practice in casino. There are software for you to practice at home. And read a book about Blackjack. It helps you to see the forest, not just few tress by asking a question or two.

Thanks alot, i will change my bet ramp. One thing i dont understand is why start raise the bet at +1, +1 give player and dealer the same odd right


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[BJGenius007]

Thanks alot, i will change my bet ramp. One thing i dont understand is why start raise the bet at +1, +1 give player and dealer the same odd right


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For S17 game, the threshold for being neutral is 0.6 or 0.8 depending on the rules. You have slight advantage at TC +1.0. Also TC +1.9 is truncated to TC +1.

[Midwest Player]

Take a gander at Card Counting Strategies in Norm's book. The 5 valued at 1.5 is what makes Wong Halves a Level 3. Take away the .5 and the -.5 from the 9 and presto...you've got RPC (Level 2). The only count listed that values the Ace higher than ten is RAPC. Good luck with that one.

Now, if you look at the 2nd chart below, there is a description of the counts objective and degree of difficulty.

From Arnold Synder's list of top 100 card counting systems I believe I counted something like 22 of them having the Ace ranked higher than the 10. Also I noticed the 5 is ranked higher than the 10 in many of them. Here is the list.
http://www.blackjackforumonline.com/content/hundred.htm

[BoSox]

You can also find 50 of those charts on the back cover in the fall issue of 1998 Blackjack forum that were excerpted from that same September 1981 issue.

[Frank Galvin]

From Arnold Synder's list of top 100 card counting systems I believe I counted something like 22 of them having the Ace ranked higher than the 10. Also I noticed the 5 is ranked higher than the 10 in many of them. Here is the list.
http://www.blackjackforumonline.com/content/hundred.htm

Thanks for bringing back memories of Snyder's Hi-Lo Lite Count he designed for ease of use while ST.