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    The one thing I forgot to mention is as a BR challenged player every little bit of extra promotional EV you can get is really important to your survival. Expenses can destroy all your EV. You should plan trips so you get the highest use of incentives. Of course that means playing rated. If you figure expenses into your RoR you are almost certain to bust out if incentives don't cover expenses. Ideally they cover expenses and have some left over to add to EV. Of course this means playing rated. You need to do a transshipment problem to minimize or eliminate expenses. And never spend anything from your BR. Spending profits from a BR challenged BR has the same effect. Ideally you should be adding to your BR from non-AP play to have the opposite effect of what was just described.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    You need to do a transshipment problem to minimize or eliminate expenses. And never spend anything from your BR. Spending profits from a BR challenged BR has the same effect. Ideally you should be adding to your BR from non-AP play to have the opposite effect of what was just described.

    ZeeBabar, are you listening?

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    Really great info for all, Tthree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    Since you can't increase your top bet you have 2 options. First is to play the lowest minimum table limit to increase your spread from your lowest bet to your highest bet. Second is to play as few rounds with a disadvantage as possible.
    This is usually not advised with a small BR. I took the risk of playing 2 hands most of the time but I don't think my BR issues were as severe as yours. It worked out for me but growing a big BR from a small BR comes down to luck more than anything. You just try to not make things harder for you.

    Generally people say count doesn't matter but a strong count would make a small spread much more effective. It would also make results more certain by lowering n0. I wouldn't switch counts unless you counting skills are solid already. I can't remember what count you said you use if you said at all. I wouldn't mention it but if it is a level 1 count stepping up to a level 2 will make a small spread much more profitable and allow you to bet more at the same RoR making it possible to have a higher top bet and thus a higher spread. I would seek times with the lowest table minimums and the least crowding. Often these are the same times. Scouting is really important for giving yourself the best chance at not busting your BR. You want to look for what the rhythm's are of the players and the games. Some casinos have no apparent player pattern while others the crowding and quite uncrowded times are as consistent as a clock. The casino will also have a rhythm for opening and closing tables and for changing table limits. They are trying to make sure the casino has tables open when the casino has a lot more players looking to play so they have a spot to play. This will cause a dead time with fewer tables open that will gradually get crowded. Then the casino will open up more tables and possibly more pits so things don't get too crowded. This will cause less crowded tables for a while. You will find some tables tend to take longer to draw customers than others so they stay uncrowded for a longer window. This is an important distinction when choosing between 2 empty tables. You want me that will still be empty when you get the monster count. You also want to scout dealers for speed, how many cards they cut off and how error prone they are. One error in your favor per hour can give you an advantage if you are flat betting. That will be huge if you are playing an anemic spread. If you can afford it playing two hands will help a lot. Playing better rules and especially fewer deck games will help a lot.
    At the moment I have a $3000 BR.
    I'm using Hi/Lo for counting system and use deviation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by terry0222 View Post
    You can use CVCX to figure all this out for yourself. Wonderful tool. You can develop various scenarios, change them, determine risk of ruin, EV, etc.
    Do you have the link for this? I see a few different options when I do a search. I want to make sure I get the right download. Also can this be downloaded to a iPad or must it be downloaded to a laptop/PC?
    Thanks


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    Quote Originally Posted by MWRIGHT13146 View Post
    At the moment I have a $3000 BR.
    I'm using Hi/Lo for counting system and use deviation.

    All due respect the games that you are playing, at $15, and $25 dollar tables, often playing two hands is going to bite you in the ass, as you are WAY over betting your roll.

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    [QUOTE=MWRIGHT13146;222217]At the moment I have a $3000 BR.


    In essence you have NO Blackjack bankroll. You have a much better chance at $10-$20 Holdem to build a bankroll. For now, put Blackjack on the back burner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwocky View Post
    "In essence you have NO Blackjack bankroll."
    +1

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    [QUOTE=Jabberwocky;222248]
    Quote Originally Posted by MWRIGHT13146 View Post
    At the moment I have a $3000 BR.
    Do you have a job? In other words, is your bankroll replinishable?
    If so, I stand by my original advice. Play the 2x30 for the first hand, and drop it after a loss. You'll catch some wins due to sheer variance, and you'll protect your second spot. It's ploppy protocol.
    The $25 games are probably better, with better rules and/or pen. But you aren't funded to play there, yet. I can afford them, but I oftentimes choose a table with one other person there, so they can eat cards in negative counts. This means a $10 or $15 table.
    When building my bankroll, I also wonged in as much as possible. You could try that.
    Some practical advice for running people off. First, use your body. Drape an arm or a leg over an adjoining chair. Sit between two spots, so you physically take up more room. If you're a gal, plop your purse in the chair next to you. If you have a drink, put it in the cup holder at the spot to your left, or right. Second, certain people are "put off" if you call them unlucky. If someone says it's been a rough day, say you don't want to play with unlucky people. They may leave. Third, call out "bad" plays. Say third base hits, and busts. Then the dealer doesn't. Announce in your best ploppy voice they took the dealer's bust card and killed the table. If they are a true ploppy, they will leave in shame.
    *Before anyone corrects me, I don't believe bad play impacts my winning or losing. But a lot of people do, so you can use that to your advantage.
    Be mindful of who you're running off, though. If it's a local regular, who tokes, the dealer and pit may get irritated with you. Don't piss off the pit.



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    Split 10's vs a 6 on your first opportunity with a small bet out, then criticize everyone for every correct play they make. Then light up a super stinky cigar and blow the smoke in their direction and put your ashtray right in front of the player next to you. Then spill a drink on their betting spot.

    Good Luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCJH View Post
    "Be mindful of who you're running off, though. If it's a local regular, who tokes,
    the dealer and pit may get irritated with you. Don't piss off the pit."
    Excellent post. The above is particularly poignant if you ignore it.
    I would add that I am quick to run off cigar smokers. The dealers
    appreciates that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigplayer View Post
    Split 10's vs a 6 on your first opportunity with a small bet out, then criticize everyone for every correct play they make. Then light up a super stinky cigar and blow the smoke in their direction and put your ashtray right in front of the player next to you. Then spill a drink on their betting spot.

    Good Luck.
    I live in upstate NY. There's no smoking inside any buildings let alone a casino. This is a brand new casino. Just opened February 1st so there isn't any "regulars" yet. Unless you count me who's there every day!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by MWRIGHT13146 View Post
    "upstate NY."
    So ...
    How goes it at Lago?

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    in Schenectady contributes BJ players to O.S.N.
    and takes counter-measures against Card Counters.


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