About ace side count

[Freightman]

But would it have mattered with a different count?

a different count would have made no difference. A chicken shit spread would have helped, but there's no point to that. I think the real issue is coming back from some tough deficits, generating from very respectable profit to even more respectable profits, though no monster prifut scenarios.

Think I'll leave the place alone for a while, try to time to get different critters.

[Jack Jackson]

Go play ping pong everyday for a few weeks. The skills you develop there are the exact same ones required to keep two moving numbers accurately in your head: Your score and your opponent's. The numbers fly around much faster in your head at the card table, but the concept is exactly the same.

I play cards professionally and use a complex count where both counts can get somewhat large(-ish) in number at times - i.e. the snapshot of a less frequent / outlier running count could be -42, +36, whatever. I think using two numbers is the best method. If you use letters for the side count then there is extra effort required to transpose that count back to its numerical value, and you already have enough to think about, like true count calculation(s), scaling bets / betting adjustments, index plays, being cognizant of what's going on around you and how you are being perceived by others, etc.

Ping Pong.

You can also side count aces a slightly different way, as well..Instead of counting the numbers of seen/unseen aces you could just count every Ace as -2 for example and compare it with +2 for every 1/4 deck n the discard tray. +13/-4 meant you would Add +4 with a one deck in the discard tray..

[Three]

I understood the quote ZMF said made no sense just fine. This one is more cryptic.

You won't be able to hide the professional game when using the count Hi Opt 2 better, than it will make the counter which will use KO in conditions shoes game.

[Gramazeka]

I understood the quote ZMF said made no sense just fine. This one is more cryptic.

I am sure that all of you have well understood. Tell me- as you hide a professional game using Hi Opt2 ?

[ferenc11]

Are the casinos' staff trained to recognize KO players in USA or in Europe or anywhere else in the Globe?

[ferenc11]

That's my main concern as well...

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[Bubbles]

I don't think they're trained to figure out what count you're using, just to figure out if you're counting. It's easiest for them to pick off hi-lo, but even multi level counts with side counts will be betting big into high counts. There's no getting around that. The extra info from the side counts helps some because your playing may look idiotic.

[ferenc11]

How would your playing seem to be idiotic in the eye of pit when hitting blackjacks and aces constantly?

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[Bubbles]

How would your playing seem to be idiotic in the eye of pit when hitting blackjacks and aces constantly?

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The other day I was playing next to a hi-lo player. My playing count was slightly negative, but there was a surplus of aces. I had a medium bet out because of the aces and got a 12 v 4. I hit it. My index called for it. The hi-lo player had a medium bet out as well and shook his head at me. He didn't know why I would do such a thing. To him, it was idiotic. To my count, it was the correct play.

[Jack Jackson]

Here are two outstanding articles on the subject of Ace Balanced secondary counts..One is by Arnold Snyder and the other is by Bret Harris..


https://www.blackjackreview.com/wp/a...s/brh-systems/


www.blackjackforumonline.com/content/sdcnt.htm

[Bubbles]

I do not have a perfect insurance count. I have an insurance count with .93 correlation. I basically add my hi opt 2 running count to my ace count and insure at and above 4 * (number of decks) + 1. It out performs taking insurance at TC +5 and +4 in shoes and pitch. I do not feel a need to keep a perfect insurance count. There are many other things I'd side count first, like side bets or more middle cards.

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