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    BJ house hidden rule

    [QUOTE=Tthree;221717]So the pokers players were robbed, end of story.
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    BJ house hidden rule

    Wow!!!
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    BJ house hidden rule

    Lol!!
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    I'm not a huge fan of Canada, but CanadaKevinB knows what's up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollingStoned View Post
    "NV regulations state a card cannot be backed up. So it wouldn't be a casino rule, but a state rule/regulation, at least in NV. But then again, NV doesn't have the most explicit of regulations, at least compared to New Jersey and I'm pretty sure Pennsylvania."
    To the very best of my knowledge the prohibition on "backing up"
    one or more cards is universal. I have never seen an exception,
    although Native American enterprises are sovereign and free to
    do as they please.

    Your comment suggesting that NV has poorly codified rules and regulations
    piques my curiosity. I am hoping that you will expand upon this issue.


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    [QUOTE=Tthree;221759]Three times and your out!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaKevinB View Post
    It would be the same thing as the casino letting some of their progressive machines getting very high, then resetting them.
    Not sure what you're implying here with progressive machines, but I can assure you nationwide (and including tribal compacts) that all progressive machines that are "reset" (If not actually hit by a purchased spin) have their jackpot values moved to another machine or multiple machines of the same denomination value (1c to 1c, $1 to $1).

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    If that happened to me as depicted, that would be the last hand I'd play against that dealer, that pit, that whomever. Double down and he gives himself a card instead of you? If I owned a casino and could train 2 or 3 dealers to pull this shit here and there, I could do okay out of the deal, not quite as profitable as dealing seconds but still quite effective! I'll keep that in mind in case I decide to open a casino but clearly this would be an unforgiveable error to me as a player (unless they were fairly stupid and were also doing mistakes in my favor along with it?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exoter175 View Post
    Not sure what you're implying here with progressive machines, but I can assure you nationwide (and including tribal compacts) that all progressive machines that are "reset" (If not actually hit by a purchased spin) have their jackpot values moved to another machine or multiple machines of the same denomination value (1c to 1c, $1 to $1).
    Yes, that was my point, that the casinos can't have the players build up a jackpot, then stick it in their back pocket and reset the machines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    Implied in these statements is that the people playing in the poker room that day were not poker players despite the fact that they were playing poker perhaps for the first time. You state that it was the poker players money further implying they didn't have a right to it because they may not have helped build the jackpot.

    Just trying to show you how stupid I am! It should be clear now.
    Yes, I know!
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    BJ house hidden rule

    Now I understand exactly why your local casino lets you play(3)!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaKevinB View Post
    Yes, that was my point, that the casinos can't have the players build up a jackpot, then stick it in their back pocket and reset the machines.
    Right, and for any "player contributed" progressive value, that can't be done, but its shady as fuck if they were planning on closing down a poker room and giving the players there on the last day a split in the value, by not announcing to all poker players that this would be done.

    Its for this reason on those very machines you spoke about, that a "ram clear" happens and the progressive values are banked somewhere else, so that a player can't simply "show up" to collect winnings that he/she did not really contribute to, but simply had a way of "knowing" to show up to.

    IE, if you didn't play a hand of poker, you shouldn't have been awarded the room's values, more so, the poker room should have at least notified the bulk majority of its regular players on a time and date to show up to chop it. Or what I've seen done, is that they actually have basically a "Freeroll" tournament for the balance.

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    BJ house hidden rule

    [QUOTE=Exoter175;221842]Right, and for any "player contributed" progressive value, that can't be done, but its shady as fuck if they were planning on closing down a poker room and giving the players there on the last day a split in the value, by not announcing to all poker players that this would be done.

    Its for this reason on those very machines you spoke about, that a "ram clear" happens and the progressive values are banked somewhere else, so that a player can't simply "show up" to collect winnings that he/she did not really contribute to, but simply had a way of "knowing" to show up to.

    Glad someone here has the common sense to see the issues!

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