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    Quote Originally Posted by terry0222 View Post
    Sissy or not, misquoting people is ethically reprehensible.

    It is perfectly okay to disagree with someone else. But purposely misquoting another person in a way that misleads others as to what was actually said is not acceptable behavior. The point is, you altered a quote in such a way that it misleads others as what was actually stated. It's a form of lying.

    If you disagree, say so. Don't play cute games.
    Sorry Terry, sounds like you are a naive younger person that thinks that karma is going to get you if you take the casinos money, when given. Maybe you will get toughened up when some casino actually cheats you for a lot of money, or maybe when get get backed roomed and get beaten up, or/and arrested. I have made ten of thousands off casino mistakes, and I sleep better because of it. Misquoting you made you sound more like a real person instead of a sissy. If you need a box of tissues and maybe a stuffed animal, send me the bill(50$ max)!

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    ...then I'm a fool. But I sleep well.[/QUOTE]

    Here's a quote from terry, and I completely agree, except the sleeping well!


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    Okay, time to end this string. Nothing more is being accomplished.

    I will just say that, contrary to the hypothesis, I'm not a "naive younger person." In fact, I'm older than dirt, and have a ton of hours under my belt. BJ has been and continues to be my only source of income....except that now I'm old enough to also draw Social Security. As I said, I'm older than dirt. But still counting, still have a nice income from the game, and still correcting dealer errors even when they benefit me at the table.

    I've never been backroomed or beaten up. Backed off---yes. But never bludgeoned. In terms of grey-area ethical decisions, each person makes those decisions for themselves. Your opinions of my own ethical standards are......meaningless.

    I know that MANY players take the attitude of "Dealer mistakes are not my problem. In fact, good for me when I am overpaid." Their choice. I do not sit in judgement. Just as I cannot play another player's hand, I cannot make ethical decisions for them. I make decisions only for myself---the way I play my cards, and the way I deal with ethical decisions.

    I am finished with this thread !!

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    Older than dirt. Lol So you graduated HS with Moses?
    Play the game to live your life. Don't live your life to play the game. Pigs get fat...Hogs get slaughtered.

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    casinos are about as unethical as it comes.
    i'd light the money on fire from a mistake at the blackjack table before i brought it to their attention.

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    Pointing out dealer mistakes

    Quote Originally Posted by tomf23 View Post
    casinos are about as unethical as it comes.
    i'd light the money on fire from a mistake at the blackjack table before i brought it to their attention.
    Yes, yes, YESSSS, here is someone that knows the casinos. Terry if your as old as dirt and this is what you have learnt, then maybe you have had your eyes shut and haven't seen things that go on in most or all casinos. I have seen casinos cheat, I have seen dealers cheat, I have seen players abused, back roomed, I have known personally dealers that wait for players to turn their attention away from the game, and try and steal bets.
    There is a poker story about farmer Terri who came home to his wife one night. Says, "honey I have lost everything, but at least they didn't bluff me!"
    I had a girlfriend that had this saying, would you prefer to be a clever thief, or a honest fool?
    Last edited by CanadaKevinB; 05-19-2017 at 09:25 PM.

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    Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them wrong when it comes to personal ethics. People feel as strongly about your opinion as you do theirs, KevinB. Some people are fine taking all they can get. Some people draw distinctions and capitalize on certain mistakes and not others. Some need to correct all the things. We're all different and the world goes 'round. There are others like Terry who value sleeping well at night. I waffle back and forth between chaotic neutral and lawful good depending on my mood.

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    Here's my take on dealer mispays.

    If you call the pit to fix a dealer mislay error in your favor, and the dealer gets into trouble because of it, don't call the critter, unless of course, you don't like the dealer.

    If the dealer does not get into trouble, only return if the amount is low, and the store is local to you. If it's on a travel route, who cares - keep it.

    Most mispays are $25 or less. I've had a few $100 to $200 errors in my time. They're nice when they happen. I've also played party pits, where dumb dealers are the rule VS the xception. I've had 1 massive payout error around 2 or 2.2 k, involving an experienced dealer who had just pissed me off, was in a local store (at the time). Situation was such that it could be explained away, and it was never returned.

    Dealer mispays are 1 way if achieving justice on really shitty rulings, or where the pit in general, just doesnt give a shit.

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    If it isn't intentionally done to screw you the dealer errors should go half and half for you and against you. The odds are you aren't catching all the dealer errors against you no matter how much you want to think otherwise. Taking dealer errors in your favor evens this out and may make sure you profit from them. The house made the mistake. They should not profit from it. It is like my mom had one of us cut the cake in half and the other got to choose which piece he wanted. That is the fair way to do it. You don't get to decide when and how dealer errors occur. You should get to decide whether to allow the error or point it out. It is only fair.

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    [QUOTE=Fenix;221737]Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them wrong when it comes to personal ethics.

    Who's this now talking to me, the one who taught herself blackjack?
    Actually Terry said he points out all of the dealer mistakes, and then commented that if that makes him a fool, then he's a fool, but he can sleep well. I don't disagree with him at all on that point about being a fool!
    If he wants to give back the money it costs me nothing, but if you think that I am going to call him smart for doing so, don't hold you breath!

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