Is this game profitable?

[blueman]

My friend says hes been playing this game for a while now profitably, as well as earning comps...

Video blackjack
Single deck
S17 no das, dd on 9 10 11 only,
If you hit to 6 cards you automatically win

I told him it's still a loser, but idk what exactly the 6 card auto win gives.

What's the house edge on this game?

[RS]

Depends what kinda comps he's getting. If the machine is fucked up and giving out comps at the 100x rate, it's probably good.

[blueman]

Depends what kinda comps he's getting. If the machine is fucked up and giving out comps at the 100x rate, it's probably good.

Hes claiming to have an edge on the game alone.
Whats the house edge?

[ZenMaster_Flash]

This is NOT countable.
It is a shuffle every round.
NDAS and D9 make this a
rather poor crappy game.
One round and shuffle.

[G Man]

Single deck
S17 no das, dd on 9 10 11 only,
If you hit to 6 cards you automatically win

IF and only IF the 6 cards automatic win pays 2:1, you have a dead even game. No advantage off the top. Could be good for comps...

[Norm]

What's the BJ payoff?

[blueman]

What's the BJ payoff?

3:2,
Comps are good... $10 coin in = 1TC (i think)

[blueman]

This is NOT countable.
It is a shuffle every round.
NDAS and D9 make this a
rather poor crappy game.
One round and shuffle.

We know that its not countable. How do we figure house edge with the whole 6 card auto winner thing?

[BlackJackAgain]

We know that its not countable. How do we figure house edge with the whole 6 card auto winner thing?

https://wizardofodds.com/games/black...le-variations/
You could always check there before asking !
(or check your Stanford Wong books)

There are some BS variations too, but the edge is small in any case....

[ZenMaster_Flash]

"How do we figure house edge with the whole 6 card auto winner thing?"

IF memory serves, Arnold Snyder listed this advantage
as worth 0.00% in e.v. as it is worth virtually nothing.

[Stealth]

This is NOT countable.
It is a shuffle every round.

Depends on what machine and where it is. Some are countable and only reshuffle at set points but they are usually set to four decks. He did not identify the manufacturer or the game name, so can't tell.

[wookets]

IF memory serves, Arnold Snyder listed this advantage
as worth 0.00% in e.v. as it is worth virtually nothing.

This is incorrect. You are thinking of 7 Card Charlie which is worth approximately 0.01%. 6 Card Charlie is worth about 0.16%

I suspect the game only lets the player double on hard 9-11. If that's the case, then the game has a house edge of 0.026% per hand, or 0.024% per wager (which is useful for factoring in cashback/comps).

If the game lets the player double on Hard/Soft 9-11 the house edge is -0.110% per hand, or -0.100% per wager. With perfect play, the player has a small edge before cashback/comps in this scenario. The strategy will be more complicated than traditional BS because you will often be taking hits in situations you regularly wouldn't because of the 6 Card Charlie rule. For instance, with 16v10, the correct play is to hit with 2 or 5 cards, but stand with 3 or 4.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

"This is incorrect."

I doubt this. Very few players will hit for a 6 card hand,

especially since MOST 5 card hands are 15 or 16 or 17.

Perhaps it is of some small value if handled correctly.