T3’s multydecks and Mose’s SD

[ZenMaster_Flash]

I will also permit risk-seeking investors to "take a side"
In effect, betting on either moses or ZenMaster_Flash
Minimum deposits ... $500.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

Im okay with Frank as official and single deck, Reno rules, straight up, 1 to 3 hand spreads, 6 or 7 rounds. I'd have to sell some shares for $50k bet. Hmmm. $50k bet would be the largest bet of the year. But it's on me. I'm listening. I'm not okay with being video recorded. Not okay with escow. Not a good value over 500 hands. Too small of a sample. Let's go 10k ha

It takes an implausibly long time to play 10,000 hands.
I suggest your surrendering 95% your assets to me [via certified check] to save time.
However, I imagine that you want to have a little fun and a few brewskis.
Location: Fort Lauderdale / Hollywood Florida
Date: to be determined.
I suggest that one very full day of play heads-up will equate to each of us playing for 5 hrs.
So … near 1,000 hands of YOUR game and 1,000 hands of MINE (6 decks, S17, LS RSA, SP4)
How can you object to being video-taped ? A safeguard for dispute resolution. Ditto: escrow.
I will agree to your offer of $50,000.

[Freightman]

A couple of points.
I Think that proposed length if contest is to small a sample size, and that contest has to be over a relatively large sample size. The proposed wager is of sufficient size to allow for larger sample size.

Anything over a single deck detracts from Moses's declared area if expertise. Proposed rules would destroy Moses' probability of victory, as his game is essentially tailored to inferior rules with limited flexibility. Proposed rules would heavily favour Flash with his knowledge if indices pertaining to those rules. A happy medium of rules, including double deck, acceptable to both players would even out the odds.

I'm sure I have other thoughts - may respond further later.

[cc12b]

Oh my G--. I do not mean to start the Dual. Please tone down your tongues and find way to avoid the debate "my count is better than yours" as each has it own strong and weakness in different rules/game.

[Norm]

Please, no wagers like this. Bet against the casinos.

[Freightman]

Oh my G--. I do not mean to start the Dual. Please tone down your tongues and find way to avoid the debate "my count is better than yours" as each has it own strong and weakness in different rules/game.

Oh hell, let it play out. There's actually merit to this pissing contest, notwithstanding the entertainment value.

[ZeeBabar]

Oh hell, let it play out. There's actually merit to this pissing contest, notwithstanding the entertainment value.

Kind of like watching a fight at a hockey game. Moses even brought me into it. Norm, close thread plase.

[Freightman]

Kind of like watching a fight at a hockey game. Moses even brought me into it. Norm, close thread plase.

Not in the least. In fact, you might learn something.

[Freightman]

I have a great deal of respect and admiration for Flash. I've wanted to compete against him for a long time. I'm not mad or upset.

I wouldn't mind getting into the contest. In addition to systems, another factor would be judgement. I can see it now. Two competing teams, divided however you want. Potential participants would be Moses, Flash, T3, Freightman, Tarzan and Zee.

Agreed upon rules with limits on spread and other things to be determined. Doesn't really matter who wins - salient point is a contest, viewed by vetted participants.

Participants could take notes, and after the contest, ask relavent questions of the various participants as to why they did, what they did, at a particular hand or point in time.

Don could referee the grammatics of declared expletives Enunciated by the various participants.
I really think there would be a lot of merit to this, though clearly very difficult to set up.

[Freightman]

Zee. No offense meant. I truly don't think anyone works harder at this game than me. My point was, that a part timer with a hobby and HiLo could beat anyone over the course of 1000. I don't bet on games, houses, stocks, or anything unless it's safe.

Moses is spot on. Anything can happen in the short term.

[Freightman]

Freighter. I can and would play aggressively in this type of situation. You HAVE to play defensively in order to remain upright in the single deck game. I would need time to develop the double deck game which would take money away from my single deck game.

That's not to say I'm not interested.

Heat would be if no consequence in this contest. Flail away.

[cc12b]

I have a great deal of respect and admiration for Flash. I've wanted to compete against him for a long time. I'm not mad or upset.

If it was contest like Olympic archery, you shoot at the target not each other, then I am fine with that. How about each play his own game in real life casino with witness/judge. After number of hands you compare the result to see who win the most? Just my 2 cents.

[lij45o6]

What about nuanced things like a dealer and prep to determine no gambling device has been altered to favour one over the other?

It would be an honour to deal to two of blackjack's top pro's in a battle to the death match.

I should say, (to avoid any issues of conflict of interest) that one of the challenge parties has been a friendly force in helping me in my blackjack world and has mentored me. If that is an issue for anyone, then what can we do to avoid it? Or, will BOTH the challenge parties involved deal in rotations? Who will "Floor", or police all activities of the event?

Also, what vetting, if any, will be taken to assuage any concerns of casino spies from finding a room full of AP's?