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    From the many states that I have played in in the United States, I would have to say that California gets really close to Las Vegas. Been back south, the midwest, and the east coast. The Gulf Coast was okay with the likes of Tunica, Biloxi, and Louisiana. We have a really good publication that is free every month and it is called Southern California Gaming Guide: http://www.thegamingguide.com/. It is a great guide for Southern California Casinos. Some people still say to this day that the El Cortez in Vegas and Barona in Lakeside, CA(San Diego), has some of the best blackjack in the country. The reason Barona(Max Rubin is employed there) or the likes of San Manuel, which has now taken some of Harrah's Rincon's blackjack dealers, don't get recognized as much by Casino Player and Strictly Slots are because tribal casinos don't disclose their yearly earnings. I know I might be going off on a tangent, but one of the reasons why Las Vegas will continually lose gambling customers is because California has 193 active casinos and the dreaded Vegas strip rules of 6:5 payout on blackjack. Why do many true gamblers need to go to Vegas when California is continuing to build more casinos in some of the most remote areas? Other than Las Vegas, California has the second most casinos in the country. Just my two cents about the casinos I've been to throughout the country. I could be wrong though.
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    Barona will count you down all day, every day. You will not last here with any meaningful stakes. Plus you will get databased. And they essentially cut their pen by breaking the shoe with every dealer change. Try to play days when they have big freeplay multipliers on $5 and up NSUD and see what happens.

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    Barona now limits all multipliers on VP to 3x as of Jan 1.

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    California has a lot of casinos by volume and may good games. I somewhat agree with @Blckman on that point, but as being the best state, no. But I'd sure put it in the top group.

    As for Barona, It's just a battle ground in general. The 2D tables are always packed with players. The rules are great but finding a table with more than an open seat or two, that's the real challenge. As for 6D's, there are only a few tables of those now. Packed but what's worse is the play is slow due to all the side bet activity by the ploppies. I doubt I'm getting 40 hands and hour in most of the time. With some exceptions (and I do say some exceptions), it's BJ is unplayable by a CCer's standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VABJ View Post
    As for Barona, It's just a battle ground in general. The 2D tables are always packed with players. The rules are great but finding a table with more than an open seat or two, that's the real challenge. As for 6D's, there are only a few tables of those now. Packed but what's worse is the play is slow due to all the side bet activity by the ploppies. I doubt I'm getting 40 hands and hour in most of the time. With some exceptions (and I do say some exceptions), it's BJ is unplayable by a CCer's standards.
    It sounds like Barona is a nightmare where you struggle to post a winning session despite great rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    It sounds like Barona is a nightmare where you struggle to post a winning session despite great rules.
    By contrast, I'm playing a heads up DDer with marginal rules and pen but soundly beating it with no heat.

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    B is just too smart. Be warned that $200 is their choke point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueman View Post
    I have played a lot of table games down there... but for blackjack i go to 2x1000 they don't like that too much. When i was there i would stay around 2x500 and still they didn't like it
    I don't know many locations that will allow that level of play in a spread, that's just asking to be backed off in most places. Down there, i wouldn't go much past $250 at the Beau Rivage, and $175-$200 anywhere else.

    At some point, for your own game, you have to realize when too much is indeed too much. To be spreading to 2x1000 in Biloxi is just foolish. There's no amount of cover or act that could reliably cover that action, and the likely spread that went with it.

    Not trying to hate on your game Blue, I'm just having a hard time trying to understand "why" someone would ever bet that much.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blckman View Post
    From the many states that I have played in in the United States, I would have to say that California gets really close to Las Vegas. Been back south, the midwest, and the east coast. The Gulf Coast was okay with the likes of Tunica, Biloxi, and Louisiana. We have a really good publication that is free every month and it is called Southern California Gaming Guide: http://www.thegamingguide.com/. It is a great guide for Southern California Casinos. Some people still say to this day that the El Cortez in Vegas and Barona in Lakeside, CA(San Diego), has some of the best blackjack in the country. The reason Barona(Max Rubin is employed there) or the likes of San Manuel, which has now taken some of Harrah's Rincon's blackjack dealers, don't get recognized as much by Casino Player and Strictly Slots are because tribal casinos don't disclose their yearly earnings. I know I might be going off on a tangent, but one of the reasons why Las Vegas will continually lose gambling customers is because California has 193 active casinos and the dreaded Vegas strip rules of 6:5 payout on blackjack. Why do many true gamblers need to go to Vegas when California is continuing to build more casinos in some of the most remote areas? Other than Las Vegas, California has the second most casinos in the country. Just my two cents about the casinos I've been to throughout the country. I could be wrong though.
    Both Barona and El Cortez are the two most notorious casinos in the country for being sweatshops and giving people the shoulder tap quickly.

    Judging by your post count of 2, and a join date 2.5 years ago, I'm going to chalk this one up to really bad information. The kind of information a "lurking" casino employee might give, especially one in surveillance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitthat16 View Post
    B is just too smart. Be warned that $200 is their choke point.
    Its not that B is too smart, its that B is too intolerant because they have Max there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exoter175 View Post
    Its not that B is too smart, its that B is too intolerant because they have Max there.
    And Max knows how to have everything look great in a sim but still make it hard for the AP to feel like he is winning with any consistency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tthree View Post
    "And Max knows how to have everything look great in a sim but still
    make it hard for the AP to feel like he is winning with any consistency."
    I would be very interested in having an explanation of how Max Rubin can do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post
    I would be very interested in having an explanation of how Max Rubin can do that.
    That would be in PM as I don't want to give a blueprint to other casinos. I have seen several casinos use it successfully almost all the time and others manage it only some of the time.

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    You apparently can't accept PM so check your Email.

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