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    How do you bet $500 without drawing attention?

    I frequently play a $50 min table and spread from 50 to 600 (6D). I'll usually buy in for $400 with all green. If the count goes up and I start ramping my bets and get a few wins, I may ask for blacks. If I bet the blacks, the dealer often calls "black action" and the pit boss may take a little more interest. As a result, I usually continue to bet greens (12 greens usually gets no response, while 3 blacks gets the black action call). So here's my question - when do you start betting blacks? Do you continue to stack greens (even 20 or 24 of them which is a big frickin stack)? If not, how do you transition to blacks with the least attention?

    Also, because of my small initial buy-in, I often have to rebuy if I lose a few hands in a row when the count is good. At this point, do you continue to buy-in for only $400 (which might be only one round) or do you now buy in for a lot more?

    Thanks for any advice.

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    $400 buy-ins are good, although I would suggest $300 (in twenties)
    Once you are above a $300 bet level stacking greens will call attention,
    so mix them up with at least one BLACK. At the $400 level and above,
    make it half and half Black and green. If a comment is made, respond
    with words to the effect "I am a simple guy with complicated superstitions."

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    Flash, explain why $300 in twenties. I carry $100 bills because I usually harvest $1500 in wallet (more elsewhere) but your explanation might help me learn something. Twenties mean a bulky wallet.

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    You carry the bulk off your bankroll in hundreds, but carrying twenties in another pocket
    allows you to look like an unsophisticated player. Note, casinos abhor fifty dollar bills.

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    any good tips for aggressive single deck play? i roughly use 50-500 and start off every new deck with 200. fwiw, i know this is beyond asking for a bo and the reason i'm trespassed everywhere in nv, but what would be the most aggro do you think i could go if i cared about even a small amount of longevity? so far, using my strategy, i can usually last anywhere from 45 min to sometimes 2 hours (usually order a lot of cocktails).
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    and yeah, i just get mostly blacks and don't cap them with a green chip. i figure it looks more suspicious when you bet $425.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steveistheman84 View Post
    "bet $425."
    WHY would you bet an unwieldy amount like that?
    Are you trying to piss off the pit critter, or are you
    aiming to look like a Card Counter?

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    just saying, if i'm already playing in a way that's gonna get me thrown out, i'm not gonna screw around with capping bets. if i was actually playing in a more subtle manner, however, i still wouldn't be capping bets. i just think they're not worth the effort and might even attract more attention by making it look like your bets are either calculated or deceptive. i could be wrong tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steveistheman84 View Post
    "i still wouldn't be capping bets."
    F.Y.I. "Capping a Bet" describes the cheating move of adding money to a bet that has already won.

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    oh.
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    If, and most do, casinos have to break down/seperate colors on a payoff I don't know what you think you're accomplishing with a multi colored stack green on top of black other than slowing down the game and pissing off the dealer. I think inknow what you're trying to accomplish but it's nonsense. There is almost nothing short of holding a cigar in their face all day long that you could do to piss off the dealer than bet multi colored stacks for no apparent reason. Occasionally it can be of benefit to actually have the dealer like you.

    Easiest way to bet $500 is to play in one of the few places or times those bets are common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveistheman84 View Post
    any good tips for aggressive single deck play? i roughly use 50-500 and start off every new deck with 200. fwiw, i know this is beyond asking for a bo and the reason i'm trespassed everywhere in nv, but what would be the most aggro do you think i could go if i cared about even a small amount of longevity? so far, using my strategy, i can usually last anywhere from 45 min to sometimes 2 hours (usually order a lot of cocktails).
    sounds like you're going to use an aggressive spread so telling you its too much would be a waste of time. Session length seems to be the bigger issue than spread to me. That session length would be too much for double deck in Nevada much less SD IMO. I'd think the short end of the sessions you mentioned is still twice as long as I'd try for if I wanted to play SD aggressively with any hopes of lasting.

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    It sounds like there is no concensus regarding whether to mix greens and blacks or simply go all black on the bigger bets. What about buying back in? If my initial buy-in is $300 or $400 but I've been betting $300 per hand because of the count and losing, should I buy in for $400 again, or maybe $900 to give me a few bets worth?

    Also, what if I'm betting $300 per hand but I now have only $200 in chips left. Should I buy in now so I can make my $300 bet or should I just go all in with the $200 (underbetting my bet ramp) to avoid suspicion?

    Thanks for any advice.

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