Reno 3 in 1

[moses]

Moses,

Going back and forth with you is tiring. If you ever want to get on my Discord and chat live, then feel free. I could answer all of your questions without skipping a beat. But trying to do this back and forth shit with you on here is old. The couple days where you were on my “ignore list” was a lot more peaceful. So let me know if you want to chat live, that way I can make you feel like an ass in real time.

You've played maybe 1600 hours IN YOUR LIFE!!! Even at 100 backoffs. That's still 1 in every 1600 hands. You have went through one helluva lot of travel, time away from family, and expense to play 160K hands. PATHETIC!

Oh so now you're tired? Well, boo friggin who. I'll be tired when I'm done after working through the night. Then get old or run again. I don't give a shit. You opened the door, not once but twice. Remember? Tell you what. You want to "try" to make me feel like an ass in real time? Then come to Reno again. If you're one of the two guys here in September of 2017 your play and act is atrocious. You are not ready for me so remove that notion from your head. No Flash and your bowl of fruits...that's not a threat.

Different strokes for different folks. If I'm going to travel away from home, away from my family, and away from my business, it needs to be worth my time. I want to extract the most amount of EV I can so I can justify the time and effort that I put in. Not to say that I don't use cover sometimes and I don't limit my spreads now and then, but when I'm traveling, I'm not holding much back. Now I will say, I wish I would have maybe approached my local market a little more conservatively in the beginning, because I can't play my local casinos due to the immediate counter-measures (local area is in MO for me). BUT... with that said, my aggressive style is also what allowed me to build a fairly good size BR out of almost nothing.

I no longer play my local market (for now) and I blast away when I'm out of town. After I give my local area 6 months to a year to forget about me a little, I will come back playing lower stakes and accumulate a smaller EV to hold me over between trips. But for now, I'm staying off the blackjack tables at home.

First you worry about how many posts I make. Then you bitch about how many I delete. You are a real piece of work. Seems like you want something more? Pretty easy to spout off on a forum.

Keep talkin. I'm only at the tip of the iceberg.

Different strokes for different folks. If I'm going to travel away from home, away from my family, and away from my business, it needs to be worth my time. I want to extract the most amount of EV I can so I can justify the time and effort that I put in.

I no longer play my local market (for now) and I blast away when I'm out of town. After I give my local area 6 months to a year to forget about me a little, I will come back playing lower stakes and accumulate a smaller EV to hold me over between trips. But for now, I'm staying off the blackjack tables at home.

So 2x$200, 2x$300 is worth your time to be gone from family? Answer that question again in a few year. That's time you can't get back.

Don't need to worry about that. I have no burning desire to make any trips to Reno. Based on numerous reports, my understanding is that they don't tolerate any kind of real action up there.

I'm pretty sure they can handle your little pidly amount.

[ico2525]

Heard this too a while back as something that "may happen in the future." Any more details? My El Dorado card is no good anymore, but I don't have a card for the other two properties. One interesting thing is status doesn't expire with El Dorado (or at least not within 2 years). I've been hoping that these other two properties do status matching, and I can start fresh at SL or CC w/o the note on my card that says "AP, unwelcome at blackjack." All that said, it doesn't really matter because it only takes a matter of minutes unless surveillance is occupied or sleeping.

[Three]

I've been hoping that these other two properties do status matching, and I can start fresh at SL or CC w/o the note on my card that says "AP, unwelcome at blackjack.

You can dream. In all likelihood the data base was purchased as well. They sometimes decide to make their own assessments but you can bet they will at least look at you with a jaundiced eye. I hope you are right but I doubt it.

[RobinHood21]

Haven't posted in a while... but was browsing through and thought this might be a helpful hint to those who are thinking about playing in Reno... one surveillance under three roofs now. All three properties are now watched in one room. And managed by one director of surveillance.


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[ZenMaster_Flash]

"But they say each casino will still act independently."

This is NOT likely to be true.

Information garnered over the years, (from Casino Shift Managers)
tells me that if surveillance says that you are to be trespassed, their order supersedes that of the Casino Manager, at least in Las Vegas.

[RobinHood21]

No... but I can possibly look into it


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[Stealth]

one surveillance under three roofs now. All three properties are now watched in one room. And managed by one director of surveillance.

Actually, this can be good news. You can bet that the number of surveillance employees will be reduced when they are combined. This means fewer people watching over more games, i.e. less scrutiny.

And you can bet that they will take every advantage of all player and surveillance databases, first for marketing reasons and then, by the way, for surveillance reasons. It may take some time for them to successfully "merge" but be assured they are on that path.

Now, those of you with a "problem" at any of the three may now have a problem at all three. When will that surface.....not sure...depends on speed of operational merger?

[BigJer]

And you can bet that they will take every advantage of all player and surveillance databases, first for marketing reasons and then, by the way, for surveillance reasons.

Stealth, what do you mean by "marketing reasons"?

ETA: I think it get it. So they will have more players to market to.

Duh.

[Stealth]

Stealth, what do you mean by "marketing reasons"?

Harrah's Total Rewards program has over 45 million users and they have the most sophisticated marketing software imaginable. They predict what cities you will visit, when you will visit, how long you will stay and how much you will spend. They then adjust the comps they send to you accordingly. During the bankruptcy hearing, the database and system for Total Rewards was valued as much as most casino company's.

All the casinos use players cards primarily for this purpose (or this intention as not many are as good as Harrah's). Buying two more casinos lets me merge these player databases and expand the level of data I have on my much bigger customer base. Now I can offer them comps to multiple properties and begin to cross sell.

I am not sure these systems are used by surveillance but rather are updated by surveillance when low life's like us are caught. And I have many instances where that is not happening. The right hand often has no idea what the left hand is doing and it is not consistent across casinos.

I have been trespassed from a Harrah's property and told I was trespassed at ALL Harrah's property's nationwide. I called a different Harrah's in a different town and was comped for a three night stay, went there and played BJ....???

Be very diligent in understanding the workings of the casinos you frequent. Know the shift schedules, learn all you can about surveillance and their shifts (different than dealers/pit usually overlap), know the pit people, spread your play across pit people and shifts.

None of this has much to do with which count you are using..................

[BigJer]

Harrahs is very open to getting you to their destination. But about as tight fisted as you can get to tolerance in blackjack. "Come stay with us. Just leave your money." This should be their mantra.

Tell me about it! Harrahs Reno! One day I got the tap, for, get this, 2x$15.

[ZenMaster_Flash]

Harrahs Reno:

My first Back-Off -- 1985

[BigJer]

During the bankruptcy hearing, the database and system for Total Rewards was valued as much as most casino company's.

Wow!!

None of this has much to do with which count you are using..................

But what if you use a Level 4 unbalanced count with a side count of 7s and 9s while side counting the Aces? :lol: J/K everyone.

[Three]

Wow!!

Total rewards reaches beyond casino play to credit cards and consumer information. These things are valuable to almost all businesses.