So if I'm a nOOb still "in training" and just stroll into a casino to observe rules and practice counting cards at a live table (watching from behind the table), will my face automatically go into the facial recognition database simply because I've walked into a casino?
What are the realities of facial recognition software?
Do any of you hide your face somehow when walking in?
Best advice please....
First, you are ALWAYS on camera while in the casino but that does not mean your face is linked to your identity. When you get a players card, then they have all the information they need.
Facial recognition software is vastly improved, as is most technology, (how does your mobile phone compare to the one you had 10 years ago), but the latest and greatest may not be installed in older casinos. Beware of new or renovated casinos as they likely have state of the art surveillance systems with HD cameras and facial recognition and license plate recognition and ad naseum.
There is no hiding of your face.
Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!
My understanding is that the effectiveness of the software is also dependant on the competentce of personnel that is using, or not using, it. So places with more competent surveillance personnel like some higher end LV casinos it would be more of an issue if this is true.
I've personally never had an issue related to FRS even though I'm in all the databases and have played in numerous stores that are reportedly using FRS. YMMV.
Wearing a hat with a brim that hides the face from overhead cameras affects FRS accuracy. Glasses can distort facial biometrics enough to defeat head on shots. Hair dye and beards work too.
The FRS will usually give several hits and it is up to surveillance to make a positive ID. It is not foolproof, not even government FRS are perfect.
No, you won't have to worry. FRS depends upon having a fairly small subset of faces to plow through. Casinos that put their entire list of customers will get so many false positives so as to make FRS essentially useless and would make FRS pointless. Network with other players and avoid casinos well known to quickly add new players to the national databases. Play short sessions and use proper precautions and casino comportment and avoid trap games and you'll keep your name cleaner longer. Better yet, never play blackjack under your real name. Either play unrated (buying in small to start), or get friends to give you their players cards, you get to play anonymously and they get the comps. Be sure they're aware that their card could get contaminated. Beware though that some casinos scan ID's when you get a player card so your friend will have to refuse to allow them to do that.
I am suspecting that you are practicing your counting in the Topaz Lodge Casino since you mention you live in Gardenville, NV and it is the only casino close by. Facial recognition is usually only used by big casinos because it is an expensive software. In a small casino like Topaz Lodge I don't think you have to worry.Originally Posted by graceunderpressure
Okay, now I can understand why you are worrying. The "Hard Rock Casino" and Caesar's Entertainment property "Harrah Resort" is up in Lake Tahoe. If you are doing it in either one of those properties than be cautious come Harrahs Casino does use Facial Recognition Software.
Was stopped by suit and called by name and told "no blackjack" without playing in newly renovated Vegas casinos. Very likely happened due to FRS linked to OSN or other databases, which I have joined. So, while it is not widespread, it does work and some casinos do use it.
Luck is nothing more than probability taken personally!
This is not the first time I've heard of this. I know of people nailed while coming down the escalator at the Venetian and others going through the funnel at Aria. Another friend of mine was nailed at a slot machine at Wynn waiting for a call-in having never played a second of blackjack at Wynn previously. I was flat betting $10 a hand for shits and giggles rated at a small LV casino and got backed off, I was dumbfounded and the shift boss said, yeah, I'm sorry, your name just popped up on the grid. I had never played a hand of blackjack at that casino previously.
Personally I think there is a lot of dumb luck involved in whether a person is backed off. Sometimes the eye just has nothing else to look at.
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