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    Month 2 Check-In

    The closing of month 2 amounted to a grand total of 0 hands played. Month 1 I met my EV, however I felt like there were some leaks in my game. So, I decided to spend the month grinding out CVBJ, fine tuning some additional index plays, and making moves to acquire a fixed bank roll. I liquidated some equity, and will now be working off of a fixed BR. The goal here is to bring in 1k a month over 6-8 trips. While I know this may receive runners up for the most uneventful post of the year, just thought I'd keep anyone who was interested in my previous post and development informed.

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    Thanks for sharing. I started a trip style process after moving to a city 3 hours from the nearest casino. First 6 trips (1-3 days long), I won about $7k. I was elated. After next two trips, I lost $3.2k and $3.7 k, was ready to quit (these short 1-3 trip). My 9 th trip, I was up just $750 when I went to sleep after a 12 hour roller coaster day, was too hyped up to sleep, decided that I should book a win for my psyche and drove home. Thus, after some 110 hours f play, I am up just about $800. Take away expenses (mostly gas and eats), I am about even. This game is tough but it revealed the personal weaknesses it is ezposed.

    for this style of trip play, I have to become more disciplined. After leaving at 7:00 a.m., driving 4 hours, I seem to forget the rest an old man needs. I check into my comped room, throw the bag on the bed and head to the tables, play one session after another in different pits or different casinos nearby till midnight, return exhausted to my room, have difficulty sleeping, sleep 2-3 hours, go back down to the tables, get sleepy return for anther short nap and play again till I leave. I average 12 hours a day for the 1-2,days and return. I guess I need to get more rest, more quality time at quality games, not play when tired as I am making mistakes. Not counting mistakes but more on betting amounts, TC calculations, adjusting to others at the table and such.

    my 10th 2-3 day trip starts Sunday. Hope I can stick to a plan and restrain from playing too many hours and settling my mind after a roller coaster ride so I can sleep. I need to sleep better between sessions.

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    Z'
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    The more hours that you play the less you will profit.
    The mistake rate rises proportional to your hrs. of play.
    Think about it. You ought to draw the same conclusion.

    Gary Kasparov suffered fatigue on his way to his epic
    loss (the first chess match of his adult life) ~ to an IBM computer. Casinos do not get tired or sleepy, any more
    than computers do.

    Last edited by ZenMaster_Flash; 11-10-2016 at 03:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeeBabar View Post
    Thanks for sharing. I started a trip style process after moving to a city 3 hours from the nearest casino. First 6 trips (1-3 days long), I won about $7k. I was elated. After next two trips, I lost $3.2k and $3.7 k, was ready to quit (these short 1-3 trip). My 9 th trip, I was up just $750 when I went to sleep after a 12 hour roller coaster day, was too hyped up to sleep, decided that I should book a win for my psyche and drove home. Thus, after some 110 hours f play, I am up just about $800. Take away expenses (mostly gas and eats), I am about even. This game is tough but it revealed the personal weaknesses it is ezposed.

    for this style of trip play, I have to become more disciplined. After leaving at 7:00 a.m., driving 4 hours, I seem to forget the rest an old man needs. I check into my comped room, throw the bag on the bed and head to the tables, play one session after another in different pits or different casinos nearby till midnight, return exhausted to my room, have difficulty sleeping, sleep 2-3 hours, go back down to the tables, get sleepy return for anther short nap and play again till I leave. I average 12 hours a day for the 1-2,days and return. I guess I need to get more rest, more quality time at quality games, not play when tired as I am making mistakes. Not counting mistakes but more on betting amounts, TC calculations, adjusting to others at the table and such.

    my 10th 2-3 day trip starts Sunday. Hope I can stick to a plan and restrain from playing too many hours and settling my mind after a roller coaster ride so I can sleep. I need to sleep better between sessions.
    Cardinal sins exposed!
    Don't play tired. If you're tired after a 4 hour drive - take a nap. Your bankroll will thank you. The start of your playing day should see you well dressed feeling fresh, clean and relaxed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMaster_Flash View Post


    Z'
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    The more hours that you play the less you will profit.
    The mistake rate rises proportional to your hrs. of play.
    Think about it. You ought to draw the same conclusion.

    Gary Kasparov suffered fatigue on his way to his epic
    loss (the first chess match of his adult life) ~ to an IBM computer. Casinos do not get tired or sleepy, any more
    than computers do.

    Thanks ZenMaster_Flash. I get it. The problem is to control myself, plan a 2-3 day trip with specific playing times and execute it (requires discipline) and ways to go to sleep after a tough day at the tables. It seems that's get to a casino and can't seem to quit and go to hotel room while losing. If I return to the room, I can't go to sleep and if I stay playing, I compound the loss.

    I am thinking of strategies to make myself stick to a plan. How much to play, how and when to rest/sleep etc.

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    The problem is you just plop yourself down for a marathon when you should be carefully picking your spots to get as many rounds in in a fraction of the time. Your win rate is not hourly it is per 100 rounds. You are trying to get the most rounds in in the shortest time with the best conditions. Fortunately these 3 sets overlap nicely.

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    Zeebabar, why not move to the city again ?
    When you do your own business, the distance between your home and your business is very, very important to consider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greg16394 View Post
    Zeebabar, why not move to the city again ?
    When you do your own business, the distance between your home and your business is very, very important to consider.
    Good points but family considerations prevent me from doing so. Got a 14 year old that started high school in new city, the spouse found work and classes. However, if I get better at this and am still healthy 4 years from now (I will be 72), I might move back to a city with casinos.

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    Thanks Moses. I like your idea of doing stuff after quitting at the tables instead of rushing to room, getting under covers and trying to sleep. Instead of trying to get a lot of hours in, I need to focus on more quality hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    Most everyone knows you warm up and stretch before a competition. However, stretching and cooling down is equally important. In blackjack, it's clearing your mind before and after. Think about how teams perform after a long grueling overtime game. They often lose to a lesser opponent the next game.
    Very good analogy. Makes sense. Perhaps I should not schedule a long extended session when I have another day left on the trip as back to back games are tough. Conserving and maintaining energy for the next game, huh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    Game selection should be part of your game. So your game starts when your feet hit the carpet inside a casino. Not when you hindparts hit the leather stool.
    +1 Excellent advice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    Game selection should be part of your game. So your game starts when your feet hit the carpet inside a casino. Not when you hindparts hit the leather stool.
    So, to a simpleton, is a 6Deck game, H17, $25 min., no S otherwise standard rules as found in many casinos in the Midwest with a penn of 75% a good game with a 1-10 spread? Under what conditions is this a playable game? Larger spread or number of players or say, a deeper penn with 5 decks cut off or wonging out at TC-2 or what? Or is it simply a bad game?

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    RE: Post #16 by Z'

    TYPOS CORRECTED.

    The game, as presented, without RSA or LS and marginal penetration, is not good for your spread.
    The following metrics are not precise:
    Average bet with a 10-1 spread will be about $17
    Win percentage will be around .60%
    Win per 100 hands = 0.7 units ($15)
    D.I. = < 3.2
    R.O.R:
    with $10,000 = 47%
    with $20,000 = 22%
    Last edited by ZenMaster_Flash; 11-12-2016 at 01:32 PM.

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