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    Quote Originally Posted by mcallister3200 View Post
    The polite way of saying what Bjarg said would be that it's not 1995 Colombia. Sure you have to be careful anywhere unfamiliar, but some/many of those casinos you are going to be safer than American casinos you may have been to (Indiana side of Chicago, e STL, isle KC, some of North LV, shit even Chester). I would visit Colombia again, but not for the BJ, Medellin is a beautiful city, safe as most major cities in the areas a tourist should be.
    Hey, I frequent E STL, ISLE KC, and the Indiana Side of Chicago, and even I won't travel to Colombia, despite having access to it. Call me practical, pragmatic, or chicken shit, but there's a tax, and there's the constant fear of being murdered by cartel lords that just doesn't sit that well with me.

    But to have Bjarg call me a clueless idiot? Come on. I know its not the Medellin of old, but it isn't exactly the Good'ol US of A, is it? I certainly don't enjoy the same rights or comforts, and as a Caucasian Male, I'm a huge target in Central/South America, and I"m not willing to risk that or my money. Security has always and will always be a huge concern of mine, and I honestly do not care to put myself into a precarious situation like that. If Bjarg couldn't take that at face value, then he's just got a stick up his ass about things.

    I'm not saying it can't be done, I"m just saying it shouldn't be done. That is literally one of, if not THE most dangerous place on earth to count cards for a guy like me, and to insult me for feeling that way and expressing it as such is just low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exoter175 View Post
    Hey, I frequent E STL, ISLE KC, and the Indiana Side of Chicago, and even I won't travel to Colombia, despite having access to it. Call me practical, pragmatic, or chicken shit, but there's a tax, and there's the constant fear of being murdered by cartel lords that just doesn't sit that well with me.

    But to have Bjarg call me a clueless idiot? Come on. I know its not the Medellin of old, but it isn't exactly the Good'ol US of A, is it? I certainly don't enjoy the same rights or comforts, and as a Caucasian Male, I'm a huge target in Central/South America, and I"m not willing to risk that or my money. Security has always and will always be a huge concern of mine, and I honestly do not care to put myself into a precarious situation like that. If Bjarg couldn't take that at face value, then he's just got a stick up his ass about things.

    I'm not saying it can't be done, I"m just saying it shouldn't be done. That is literally one of, if not THE most dangerous place on earth to count cards for a guy like me, and to insult me for feeling that way and expressing it as such is just low.
    By all means I wouldn't suggest someone should go where they feel unsafe or uncomfortable, and don't blame you for being offended for being insulted. And with the tax and currency restrictions I probably wouldn't go there for blackjack.

    Constantly being in fear of being murdered by cartel lords is beyond irrational. Facts are facts. Medellin is not on this list of 50 most dangerous cities in the world in regards to murders per 100k people
    http://www.businessinsider.com/most-...0-residents-49 (was 49th in 2015). (You asked for an explanation why your perception is wrong)

    There are 4 US cities on the list, 3 Colombian cities! (NOLA, Detroit, Balt, STL, I'm sure we've both been to all 4 and will be to some of them again but there's area's neither of us would probably go because you'd also be a huge target as a Caucasian male!). It ain't Venezuela.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcallister3200 View Post
    By all means I wouldn't suggest someone should go where they feel unsafe or uncomfortable, and don't blame you for being offended for being insulted. And with the tax and currency restrictions I probably wouldn't go there for blackjack.

    Constantly being in fear of being murdered by cartel lords is beyond irrational. Facts are facts. Medellin is not on this list of 50 most dangerous cities in the world in regards to murders per 100k people
    http://www.businessinsider.com/most-...0-residents-49 (was 49th in 2015). (You asked for an explanation why your perception is wrong)

    There are 4 US cities on the list, 3 Colombian cities! (NOLA, Detroit, Balt, STL, I'm sure we've both been to all 4 and will be to some of them again but there's area's neither of us would probably go because you'd also be a huge target as a Caucasian male!). It ain't Venezuela.
    You and I both know a "Murders per 100k" statistic is not even a fair nor logical statistic for argument here. A Risk model would be more accurate to simulate here, and the risk of a Male, American, Caucasian, traveling internationally to a nation that is basically ran by drug lords, dictators, and murderers for the last, jeeze, 97 years or so? That despise his country of origin, Is probably not the place a man would want to travel, and that risk model would balloon by comparison of, say, Bogota or Medellin, by comparison to Detroit, STL, etc.

    And in reality, its not about murders at all, or comparing it to the US. Its about traveling to an otherwise unsafe country, to play a by all numbers PHENOMENAL game, and trying to make it out of the country with my money, and with my life.

    You used murder/100k as a statistic, which we both know isn't accurately tracked, especially for places like Bogota and Medellin, and I'd interject that the numbers, while wrong, would be more accurate if you compared the entirety of the country to one another, but more importantly, focused on the kidnapping statistic. A white, Caucasian, Male, walking into any casino in Central/Southern America without a security detachment is like sending up a flare saying "come kidnap/rob me". I'd rather look at the Kidnap/Robbery/Small crime TOURIST numbers between both countries, as I feel like Columbia's would be heavily skewed by comparison.

    Again, though, not saying its a bad place, Cartagena is one of my favorite places on earth, I'm just not going there to gamble. Its kind of a "respect" thing for me. You don't walk into the Wolfs den and take his dinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exoter175 View Post
    Cartagena is one of my favorite places on earth, I'm just not going there to gamble
    I happen to be going to Cartagena later this month. Do you have any suggestions of places I should make sure to see (Non AP related)? If possible, I was planning on playing a little BJ just so I could say I played there. I will not be there long, it is one of the stops on a cruise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJPloppy View Post
    I happen to be going to Cartagena later this month. Do you have any suggestions of places I should make sure to see (Non AP related)? If possible, I was planning on playing a little BJ just so I could say I played there. I will not be there long, it is one of the stops on a cruise.
    I spent most of my time there flopping around Playa Blanca to be honest, first real vacation I had taken in years. Having said that, if you're an architecture or history buff like I am, you'll love checking out the Cathedrals and Monuments all over! Its a wonderful place to relax, lose your phone, and just go walk around and explore.

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    International play

    I doubt anyone will hand you games (or countries) on a silver platter.
    If you've never been outside the US, it might be wise to begin playing internationally once you are better traveled in general...

    On general issues: in most places you will find lower bets than in big-city North America. Fewer whales, and of course fewer casinos. In most places you will have to present ID to get in (forget anon/unrated play). In most places you will stand out just for being foreign.

    I have never heard of APs being arrested for AP. For trying to smuggle cash out of the country, yes.

    If you don't declare cash you run the risk of confiscation/arrest. If you do declare, depending on how much you declare, you might be stuck there for hours proving it is legitimate cash, and you might be vulnerable to "requests" for bribes. Some countries simply do not allow exporting/importing over X,000 dollars. Any excess is confiscated. These are extremes but they do exist, so you need to do a lot of research before you go.

    In many (most) places legislation/regulation is not as strict as in the US (some would argue it's not strict in the US....) and there are cases of cheating. Again, do the research.

    Quantity of games - less than the US - quality - varies, as does tolerance. Your spread is very high for the majority of the places I know, although a few places handle that easily (know of limited AP opportunities there, though).

    Yes, many places outside the US are playable and attractive. But you really need to do your research on everything before you go.


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    Quote Originally Posted by blueman View Post
    I was just curious about blackjack conditions outside of the US. Is it worth going through everything needed to get there and play? And by there im not even sure where lol. How is, say, Europe compared to the US when it comes to quantity/ quality of games?

    Is it harder or easier to get say 2x600 down than the US? What do they do to card counters? Back off, 86, arrest? I've never left the US except to take a cruise, but ive heard that there are a lot of places to play in general outside of the US... i just don't know where to start. Im a black chip player going up to anywhere from 2x400 to 2x1000 depending on casino conditions (in the US)

    Then, not even really blackjack related, is it hard to travel with 50-100k? What's the best way to do that? Cash? Wire? Do you get hassels with it?

    Any tips/ advice would be greatly appreciated.

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    Colombia charges a 25% tax on cashouts now I believe.
    Not precisely. There is a 25% tax on cashouts > 600 usd. So simply do not cash out more than 600 usd in a day (I used 500 usd for safety) and you are fine.

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    Forget australia bullshit conditions.west europe is full with csm and east europe has decent games but with some bizzare bad luck for the players-counters

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